Re: XF86 config Problem - Redhat 9

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I'm not sure if this helps or not, but I spoke with a user in France, who had 
a working config, but he had one regular VGA based monitor, and one flat panel,
 I believe directly connected to the DVI port.  In my case I have two regular 
VGA screens.  I am updating my XFree86 version as we speak to XFree86-4.3.0-10, and will post my config as soon as I have it down and working, if it works 
that is.  If this is true, and I don't have the hardware to test, but 
I ponder if the video card is picky about what precisely is connected to it.  
I also had issues with ModeLines that should have been fine on my monitor, but 
weren't.  In this case I have experienced the same issue under Windows for 
that problem.  It refuses to probe the monitor properly, and gives me much 
lower scan rates and resolutions than should be theoreticaly possible with my 
128MB video card.

Okay - now to reboot into Linux so I can see if this works!

Alex Turner
NetEconomist

On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 12:41:14AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 12:04 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote:
> >>Yep, this is a known bug with the stock XFree86 rpms in RH9.  The 
> >>newer
> >>(rawhide) rpms fix this at the expense of mirroring that can't be
> >>turned off.  AFAIK, this problem still exists.
> >
> >There are some people who make that claim, but I have yet to see
> >it proven true in front of my eyes.
> 
> I wish I had a digital camera, or that you lived in DC.  I'd invite you 
> over for pizza, beer, and a debugging session. :)
> 
> >So please don't state it as
> >if every single Radeon user is going to experience the problem
> >you claim as that is not true.
> 
> I've traded emails with a number of dual-head Radeon users and have 
> answered quite a few pleas for help based on my messages in the 
> archives.  I've yet to speak to anyone who has a working dual-head 
> Radeon set up in RH9/XF86 4.3.0.
> 
> If you're out there, don't be shy!  Post your config file!
> 
> >I personally consider it end user misconfiguration until I see an
> >actual reproduceable test case which I can reproduce on one of
> >the 20+ Radeon cards I have here.
> 
> Ok.  I totally understand the motivation for feeling like your hands 
> are tied without a reproducible case.  Let me ask you this: do you have 
> a dual-head Radeon 7500 (I'd settle for any Radeon model) for which 
> Xinerama works for you in XFree86 4.3.0?  If so, I know there are more 
> than a few people who wouldn't mind if you posted the XF86Config file 
> for that system <wink>.
> 
> >Since the config tool does not handle dualhead configuration, it
> >isn't a surprise that users misconfigure it left and right, as it
> >isn't a particularly easy process for many to get it correct.
> 
> My XF86Config file isn't generated by the config tool.  It's derived 
> from my XF86Config-4 file which worked just fine in both Xinerama and 
> non-Xinerama dual-head configuration on XF4.2/RH7.3.  I include it 
> again below.
> 
> I'm totally willing to believe it's a misconfiguration on my part.  But 
> I've stared at this file countless times, tried countless variations, 
> and have had no luck.  Tell me what to try and I will try it.  I'd 
> gladly trade public humiliation in a perpetual archive for a working 
> Xinerama set up. :)
> 
> >Perhaps users who do have it workign will share their
> >configurations with those that don't.
> 
> I would love this.
> 
> >I have made this response with the specific intent of not having
> >all Radeon users scared away by possible misinformation because
> >one or 2 people have a problem that might very well be lack of
> >proper configuration.
> >
> >One thing is for sure though, until an actual bug can be
> >reproduced by a developer somewhere, then it is nothing more than
> >an unknown phenomenon which may be a bug or may be
> >misconfiguration.  Until a bug is proven and a test case exists
> >nobody can or will fix it.  On the contrary, when a test case
> >does exist, which is reproduceable and is proven to not be
> >misconfiguration, then someone can investigate what is causing
> >it.
> >
> >I await that test case.
> 
> Tell me what I can do to produce such a test case.  Seems like it would 
> be difficult without a picture or movie of my desktop.  A screen 
> capture is useless.
> 
> Anyway, just so the information's convenient, I'll describe once again 
> my hardware set up:
> 
> - Single Radeon 7500 PCI card with a VGA and a DVI port in a Dell 
> Optiplex box
> - Two Dell E171FP analog flat panel monitors
> - One panel plugged directly into the 7500's VGA port
> - One panel plugged into the DVI port with an ATI supplied DVI->VGA 
> converter
> 
> I'm running RH9, XFree86-*4.3.0-10.rpm just grabbed from rawhide not 30 
> minutes ago.
> 
> Symptom: mirroring on both monitors which cannot be turned off.  No 
> multiple screens, no Xinerama.  Do you need any other information?  A 
> dump of XFree86.0.log?
> 
> -Barry
> 
> ----------snip snip----------
> Section "ServerLayout"
> 	Identifier     "XFree86 Dual Head"
> 	Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
> 	Screen      1  "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
> 	InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> 	InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
> 	RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
> 	ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
> 	FontPath     "unix/:7100"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
> 	Load  "dbe"
> 	Load  "dri"
> 	Load  "extmod"
> 	Load  "glx"
> 	Load  "record"
> 	Load  "xtrap"
> 	Load  "speedo"
> 	Load  "type1"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "ServerFlags"
> 	Option "Xinerama" "On"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> 	Driver      "keyboard"
> 	Option	    "XkbRules" "xfree86"
> 	Option	    "XkbModel" "microsoft"
> 	Option	    "XkbLayout" "us"
> 	Option	    "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 	Identifier  "Mouse0"
> 	Driver      "mouse"
> 	Option	    "Device" "/dev/mouse"
> 	Option	    "Protocol" "MouseManPlusPS/2"
> 	Option	    "Emulate3Buttons" "off"
> 	Option	    "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> 	Identifier   "Monitor0"
> 	VendorName   "DELL"
> 	ModelName    "DELL E171FP"
> 	Option	    "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
> 	Identifier   "Monitor1"
> 	VendorName   "DELL"
> 	ModelName    "DELL E171FP"
> 	Option	    "DPMS"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> 	Identifier  "Card0"
> 	Driver      "radeon"
> 	VendorName  "ATI"
> 	BoardName   "ATI Radeon 7500"
> 	BusID       "PCI:1:11:0"
> 	Screen	    0
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> 	Identifier  "Card1"
> 	Driver      "radeon"
> 	VendorName  "ATI"
> 	BoardName   "ATI Radeon 7500"
> 	BusID       "PCI:1:11:0"
> 	Screen      1
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> 	Identifier "Screen0"
> 	Device     "Card0"
> 	Monitor    "Monitor0"
> 	DefaultDepth     24
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Depth     24
> 		Modes    "1280x1024" "1280x1024"
> 	EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
> 	Identifier "Screen1"
> 	Device     "Card1"
> 	Monitor    "Monitor1"
> 	DefaultDepth     24
> 	SubSection "Display"
> 		Depth     24
> 		Modes    "1280x1024" "1280x1024"
> 	EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
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