On Sat, 2 Mar 2002, Guy Fraser wrote: >I tried to build the stuff from the rawhide area and found so many >dependancies would >conflict with the packages form Enigma (7.2). The stuff in rawhide currently is old, and crap. ANyone rebuilding X from rpm generally can not just --rebuild it. I need to make certain changes from release to release in order to evolve the X packaging, features, and make X not suck as much. However, at the same time I need to keep backward compatibility to an extent. As such, I conditionalize many parts of the spec file with %define directives. In order to build X for older releases, and have it _sane_, one generally needs to edit the spec file, read the comments in it, and the changelog, etc. and reconfigure it prior to rebuilding. This process changes and evolves over time to meet the demands of keeping X sane. It is not however necessarily a simple process, but it is not overly difficult either. >I then boldly attempted to start from the xc tapes... >eeaaahh-ouch. Not knowing that the servers were not built I >installed and KaPOW! No more working X windows. ;o) >My want for 4.2 stems from my purchase of an ATI All-In-Wonder Radeon >8500DV AGP. Supported 2D only. Most of the All in Wonder features are not currently supported. >Yah I know..., but the card was just what I was looking for. I know.. I want one. ;o) Unfortunately, to take full advantage of the card, one needs to use a lesser operating system. The GATOS drivers however do support watching TV among other features, and I think they got the remote control working now too. >Here is the reason I am using this list and not the XFree86 list : > >After installing the card then booting up, kudzo naturally >detected that my old card was no longer installed, so I agreed >to remove it's configuration but the new card was not detected. >OK, the card is too new, and is not listed in >"/usr/share/kudzu/pcitable". Need new Xconfigurator && kudzu && hwdata >When I had the broken X from the xc sources installed the card >was detected with the radion B200 chipset [1002 4243] in R200 >Does anyone have any pointers for me? >Can I just edit the pcitable so that the card is detected properly? It's already updated, and supported. We just have not made an officially endorsed release of it yet. We never rush releases just to be the first out there. XFree86 4.2.0 works well for many people so far, however it is nowhere near considered a quality tested release just yet. I will not be releasing official packages until it is highly tested, and sane. >Apparently Mandrake already has Support for 4.2 and claim >support for my new card. I don't care for mandrake but would >like to see XFree86 updated to v4.2. Perhaps mandrake doesn't have such stringent requirements of quality as we do. ;o) >Does kudzo need to be updated as well? Yes. My recommendation is to grab my prebuilt XFree86-4.2.0-6.44 release from: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing/bleeding-edge You'll need to rpm -Uvh *.rpm after downloading. You'll also need several other things such as freetype 2.0.8, glut, Xconfigurator, kudzu, hwdata, and possibly other deps as well. Let me know what dependancy warnings pop up, and I will put the sanest packages in my ftp space to meet them (rawhide is horribly broke so dont go there). RIght now, many people are using my 4.2.0 packages, and some would have you believe that they are release-ready. However... Quality goes in, before the name goes on. ;o) If you've any questions, just holler. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, XFree86 maintainer Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 Red Hat Inc. Phone: (705)949-2136 http://www.redhat.com ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris Red Hat XFree86 mailing list: xfree86-list@redhat.com General open IRC discussion: #xfree86 on irc.openprojects.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------
