Guys can you take this off list? This thread is going nowhere but downhill. This list is typically pretty courteous as far as technical lists go, and I find the regression to name calling extremely distasteful and nonproductive.
It's also not really applicable to most of us. I haven't even been _reading_ most of these posts, and just deleting the several dozen messages has gotten onerous. Bret really has two good points: there are other fora more relevant to your discussion, and in THIS forum courtesy and professionalism are highly appreciated.
Please "take it outside", either to private mail or to a more appropriate list.
-- Rodolfo J. Paiz rpaiz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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