Yes. Thanks for pointing this out to everyone. I agree with you 100%.
You are prone to dumb statements as I said. You need to study the meaning-----Original Message----- From: redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:redhat-list-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hal Burgiss Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 6:25 PM To: redhat-list@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: C++ lib compatibility between Red Hat 9 and 7.3
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 06:03:52PM -0500, Otto Haliburton wrote:
That's a stupid comment. I'm a developer. The issue is they don'tSo these developers, many of which, if not most, are unpaid, spend a portion of their free time working on something that they have essentially given to you, but they did not do it just the way you would like? Is that it?
Sorry, didn't know. You sounded just like a JAFU (Just Another F'ing User). My mistake.
have all the resources necessary to test what they develop, because
they are for free. That's the issue. You need to get a
grip!!!!!!!
If you don't like what someone is giving you, then either graciously ignore the shortcomings, or find a way to make it work for you. Or hell, offer to contribute to help fix the problem. Simply complaining about it, and throwing about grand ideas doesn't really do much for anybody. Maybe they could use another developer on the team.
-- Hal Burgiss
of democracy and the good points of debate. There is a raging debate about
how to make things better. And if debate is cut off then you leave things
out there that don't get fixed and mistakes continue to be made. We are in
a war where people are getting killed because there was no debate and
everyone was locked in on one way of doing things. The object of discussion
is to come to a consensus on how to solve problems. Complaints and
suggestions are ways of getting feed back on how to achieve those goals.
Ideas grow from debate and criticism. New things are tried because somebody
disagreed or decided on a better way to do it. As I will say again. You
are prone to talk out of the wrong end.
Also, I certainly don't subscribe to the view that giving something away for free takes away your (moral) responsibility. I'm not saying that I think I have the right to demand that freeware developers give me applications that perfectly suit my needs, but I do think that everyone are responsible for being able to justify their claims. In other words, if developers claim the application is perfect for me, *then* I have the right to demand that it is. Maybe this is not very relevant to the thread; I'm just tired of the argument that the developers were doing it for free. I'd say that from a purely moral or philosophical viewpoint, what you they get paid has nothing whatsoever to do with anything.
- Toralf
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