On Fri, Feb 04, 2011 at 06:15:44PM +0700, hansbkk@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Keld Jørn Simonsen put forth on 2/4/2011 3:06 AM: > > >> I dont think SNIA defines RAID 10, which is a specific Linux MD thing. > > > > Either you're very young, or don't read what I type, maybe both. ;) RAID 10 has > > been around for 15+ years. It is not unique to Linux mdraid. The "alternate > > layouts" of mdraid are unique to Linux/mdraid, but RAID 10 is not unique to mdraid. > > > >> For RAID1+0, I think it is covered by the DDF standard > > > > RAID 10 and RAID 1+0 are the same thing by two different names. It's not > > > > > I'm getting dizzy from the running in circles... > > > Dope-slaps all 'round! > > Again, this problem would just go away if everyone would just refrain > from using "RAID 10" or "RAID10" as if they were meaningful - within > the context of this list, they just cause confusion. > > It seems the mdadm people are willing to use RAID 1+0 for "the other > kind", and the "outsiders" are willing to use "md RAID10", but both > sides would like to claim just plain "RAID10" for themselves, and it's > causing endless loops of non-communication! > > Please reply with better alternatives, but IMO "md raid10" and > "raid1+0" are clear enough to be understood by one and all. > > For those of you sick of my ranting on beating a dead horse, I'm sorry > but I just can't help keeping on trying to put this behind us - we're > all here for a common cause aren't we? > > I'm not asking you to change any religious beliefs outside the list, > just adopt an enabling convention for discussions here. I can agree with what is said here, at least when we are discussing with somebody like Stan who insists on using terminology, that is easily misunderstood. I do think precise terminology is important. Also I have tried to clean up terminology other places, such as our wiki and in articles elsewhere. I tend to write "Linux MD raid10" in those instances. Best regards keld -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html