Re: support for external persistent cache

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maybe it´s the intention of  'mcachefs'
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse/index.php?title=FileSystems



2011/1/19 Roberto Spadim <roberto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> hummm....
> thinking again.....
>
> what´s the today raid1 problem?
> it´s based on minimal disk size
> for example...
> /dev/sda 1gb
> /dev/sdb 1tb
> we can have a 1gb raid only
>
> what you want is:
> 1tb raid0
> with a automatic /dev/sda to /dev/sdb write
>
>
> could we call this raid0-cache?
> i think we could implement it in raid....
>
> check this fuse (filesystem) implementation: http://www.furquim.org/chironfs/
> it´s based on filesystem (ok it´s a raid1, not a cache like, but´s
> limited to max filesystem size, not the minimal filesystem size... ok
> it´s not secure to use it since small filesystem don´t have all
> information, but´s nice)
>
> anyone want to make raid0-cache implementation?
>
>
> 2011/1/19 Roberto Spadim <roberto@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> i think we could make it
>> but not a raid feature
>> a linux feature
>> for example
>>
>> we could get ramdisk, nbd (network block device), ssd, hd, scsi, raid
>> and select what is first cache, and what is real value
>>
>> after this device is created we could use it with raid...
>>
>>
>> but.... the problem persist
>> if we lost energy, we can´t confirm that ram memory is sync to disk,
>> just if we don´t use memory cache... in other words we will work with
>> the best cache disk speed)
>>
>> since ram can get 32GB on big home computer
>> and ssd can get 1terabyte on big home computer
>> and hdd can get more than 1terabyte on big home computer
>>
>> we just need time to sync 32GB from memory to ssd
>> what´s the ssd speed? 300mb/s? we need 106,6666666666667 seconds to
>> sync memory to ssd, can you buy a ups with 107 seconds of life with a
>> serial cable (usb maybe) that inform that we are without energy?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2011/1/19 Cory Coager <ccoager@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:44:31PM -0200, Roberto Spadim wrote:
>>>> yes, a jornaling but using ssd first and sata after
>>>> it?s not raid feature...
>>>> it?s per disk filesystem feature...
>>>> we could implement jornaling in raid too...
>>>> but?s more inteligent (easy) at application level (filesystem)
>>>> you could write first at network (if it?s faster than sata) and after
>>>> at sata (if it?s slower than network)
>>>>
>>>> it?s not a raid feature... it?s a per device feature got it?
>>>> maybe a device (not raid..) for a cache division on devices
>>>> for example
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> /dev/sda (sata 1terabyte 100mb/s)
>>>> /dev/sdb (ssd 1gigabyte 1000mb/s)
>>>>
>>>> /dev/cache_a (a mix of sata and ssd with sata size 1terabyte, and
>>>> mixed speed (memory, ssd, sata))
>>>>
>>>> cache_a device should know that
>>>> early reads/write should be writen to sdb
>>>> time in time it should sync at sda
>>>>
>>>> the same happens with memory (ram memory) but it?s volatille (diferent
>>>> than ssd that?s not volatille)
>>>>
>>>> /dev/sdb should be sync
>>>> /dev/sda should be async (since /dev/sdb make it safe to use async)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that?s you intention? i don?t know if linux have it, anyone know?
>>> I would use a physical ramdisk over a ssd but thats besides the point.
>>> They are still disk drives to the OS.
>>>
>>> Yes, I guess it would be similar to journaling but done in RAID
>>> itself.  I don't believe it exists yet, thats why I'm asking if
>>> we could add support for this?
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