Re: md extension to support booting from raid whole disks.

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Op maandag 04-05-2009 om 18:55 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Goswin von
Brederlow:
> Rudy Zijlstra <rudy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> 
> > Op zaterdag 02-05-2009 om 00:49 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Goswin von
> > Brederlow:
> >> Rudy Zijlstra <rudy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
> >> 
> >> > I really prefer the current situation, where you need to explicitly
> >> > configure a RAID1. This makes clear what is happening, and reduces
> >> > confusion. This propposal would make debug of a failed boot just so much
> >> > more difficult. 
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Rudy
> >> 
> >> As said in another mail the same problem is there with raid1. The
> >> proposal should allow creating a raid1 over sda/b without partitioning
> >> and any replacement drive automatically becoming bootable without you
> >> having to manually reinstall the bootloader to the new disk.
> >> 
> >> Wouldn't that be a huge plus?
> >> 
> >> MfG
> >>         Goswin
> >
> > Agreed to the automatic bootable of replacement disk, I still prefer the
> > partitioning though, as it makes clear what is happening. There are two
> > aspects here:
> > 1/ ease of installation
> 
> Which isn't true. Installing thebootloader on every component device
> is currently a pain and easy to forget when changing disks.

which means it is an important aspect... And i agree at the moment easy
to forget. So far i do not see improvement in this aspect from current
proposal. 

> 
> > 2/ ease of debug
> >
> > The latter is very important in boot situations. It gets worse with any
> > implied action. Please take a look at what you are specifying: an
> > implicit RAID1 over 2 "special" disks, within a RAIDX device... Now you
> > expect a user to debug that, in case it fails?? I have had too often
> > trouble to get my systems to boot the way i wanted to boot them, to
> > trust any BIOS to do the expected :(
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Rudy
> 
> Not over 2 "special" disks. Plain across all disks.

Which is even worse, as i have not seen *any* BIOS able to handle
that... and i have a intel based board wich according to this email
thread should do that (and linux did not recognise the raid it had
configured, so let us forget about booting from it)



Cheers,

Rudy

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