Re: RAID5 on different sized disks on low-end machine

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Derek Piper wrote:
Hi,

I revised my idea and thought about RAID 1+0 for some partitions,
since there are 4 drives. This outline below might clarify what I was
trying to mention earlier. Is this a feasible set-up that would be
bootable (kernel compiled-in md, I'm no stranger to compiling
kernels)? I'm interested to hear comments/opinions since I've never
done this before. Like I said, it'll be running on a Dual-pentium pro
200 (W6-LI) machine, I have no idea if machines of that vintage have
the 'cojones' for software raid or not.

My ideas of RAID1+0 / RAID5 disk system partitions							
		MB					
/dev/hde	60GB	57241	(from controller)				
/dev/hdf	60GB	57241	(from controller)				
/dev/hdg	60GB	57241	(from controller)				
/dev/hdh	80GB	78125	(unconfirmed)				
							
/dev/hd* = applies to all drives considered here							
							
Device	MB	Type	GB	Mountpoint	MD device	RAIDed size (MB)	GB
/dev/hd*1	20	RAID1 + 0	0.02	/boot	/dev/md1	40	0.04
/dev/hd*2	192	RAID1 + 0	0.19	Swap	/dev/md2	384	0.38
/dev/hd*5	2048	RAID1 + 0	2	/	/dev/md5	4096	4
/dev/hd*6	2048	RAID5	2	/home	/dev/md6	6144	6
/dev/hd*7	52933	RAID5	51.69	/data	/dev/md7	158799	155.08

Does swap being raided make sense? I hear that sometimes it's a good
idea since a disk failure won't make you crash and then I heard
elsewhere that it doesn't matter and the kernel automatically raids
swap partitions anyway. I prepared the above in a spreadsheet btw so I
could work out partition sizes.

Thanks in advance again for any comments.

Derek

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:47:20 -0500, Derek Piper <derek.piper@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi,

I am new to RAID / md devices, although I've used Linux for a number
of years. I decided it was high-time I had a RAID at home for
important things (email, web-sites, son's baby pics, mp3s etc.). I
happen to have a 3 Seagate 60GB hds and 1 80GB Seagate hd that I am
considering using for a RAID.

My question is this, is it possible (and even a good idea) to use all
4 hard drives as members of a 4 x 60GB RAID5 array by leaving 20GB of
the 80GB drive as a non-raided partition? I'll be using a Promise
Ultra TX2/100 controller.

i.e.

hde -> 60
hdf -> 60
hdg -> 60
hdh -> 60/20

I heard about RAID6 too, though I'm assuming that will use up another
disk's worth of disk space too.

i.e. RAID5 = 180GB usable size,wherease RAID6 = 120GB .. am I correct
in my thinking?

I know many of you use far larger hard drives, I'm just trying to use
the components I already had spare from a number of machines and
reorganize to a RAID-backed fileserver.

The machine is a dual pentium-pro 200 (320MB RAM) .. would that be a
dumb idea to use RAID5 on it because of the parity calculations
needed?

Further to that, would it be a smarter idea to use RAID1 on all 4 of
some small partition(s) at the start of the disks to house
boot/root/usr partitions, and only RAID5 on a larger 'data' area of
the drive that is more likely to be read than written to?

Derek,

I have a machine with 6 x 250GB SATA disks, but the configuration I use would work just as well for you. Here's what I'd do:

Partition all your drives the same.
Create one small partition of 1GB, plus one large partition using up the rest of the disk (i.e. around 59GB), *except* the 80GB drive. On this, create a 1GB partition, a 59GB partition, plus a third partition using up the rest of the disk (i.e. around 20GB)


Assuming these drives are /dev/hd[efgh], configure them as follows:

/dev/hd[ef]1  	/dev/md0	/
/dev/hd[gh]1	/dev/md1	swap
/dev/hd[efgh]2	/dev/md2	lvm volume group
/dev/hdh3	-		use for whatever you want!

Now, use lvm to create logical volumes in your large volume group. I have created /var, /use, and use the rest for /home.

These are my arrays:

[root@dude slimserver]# mdadm --detail --scan
ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=be8ad31a:f13b6f4b:c39732fc:c84f32a8
devices=/dev/sdb1,/dev/sde1
ARRAY /dev/md2 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=826170e2:cdd598d4:d212c9b1:6602deef
devices=/dev/sdc1,/dev/sdf1
ARRAY /dev/md5 level=raid5 num-devices=5 spares=1 UUID=a4bbcd09:5e178c5b:3bf8bd45:8c31d2a1
devices=/dev/sda2,/dev/sdb2,/dev/sdc2,/dev/sdd2,/dev/sde2,/dev/sdf2
ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=4b28338c:bf08d0bc:bb2899fc:e7f35eae
devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdd1


These are the lvm logical volumes:

[root@dude slimserver]# lvdisplay
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name                /dev/audio_vg/usr_lv
  VG Name                audio_vg
  LV UUID                qseH0A-wKgo-xhB5-2tJ4-Qnxx-VOML-0eb43m
  LV Write Access        read/write
  LV Status              available
  # open                 1
  LV Size                10.00 GB
  Current LE             160
  Segments               1
  Allocation             inherit
  Read ahead sectors     0
  Block device           253:0

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name                /dev/audio_vg/var_lv
  VG Name                audio_vg
  LV UUID                nzH8uf-LhyU-o5My-tK48-ckaw-xzfL-esbfj4
  LV Write Access        read/write
  LV Status              available
  # open                 1
  LV Size                5.00 GB
  Current LE             80
  Segments               1
  Allocation             inherit
  Read ahead sectors     0
  Block device           253:1

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name                /dev/audio_vg/home_lv
  VG Name                audio_vg
  LV UUID                zbixtc-S6mb-MTVR-WXGw-dkjG-EU9q-WeZItv
  LV Write Access        read/write
  LV Status              available
  # open                 1
  LV Size                914.38 GB
  Current LE             14630
  Segments               1
  Allocation             inherit
  Read ahead sectors     0
  Block device           253:2


This is what my filesystems look like:

[root@dude slimserver]# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md0              1.4G  357M  985M  27% /
/dev/mapper/audio_vg-var_lv
                      5.0G  1.4G  3.3G  30% /var
/dev/mapper/audio_vg-usr_lv
                      9.9G  2.4G  7.0G  26% /usr
/dev/mapper/audio_vg-home_lv
                      915G  142G  764G  16% /home

And finally swap:

[root@dude slimserver]# swapon -s
Filename Type Size Used Priority
/dev/md1 partition 1469816 224 -1


R.
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