On Thu, Dec 30, 2004 at 10:50:55PM +0300, Michael Tokarev wrote: > Peter T. Breuer wrote: > >In gmane.linux.raid Georg C. F. Greve <greve@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >Yes, well, don't put the journal on the raid partition. Put it > >elsewhere (anyway, journalling and raid do not mix, as write ordering > >is not - deliberately - preserved in raid, as far as I can tell). > > This is a sort of a nonsense, really. Both claims, it seems. > I can't say for sure whenever write ordering is preserved by > raid -- it should, and if it isn't, it's a bug and should be > fixed. Nothing else is wrong with placing journal into raid > (the same as the filesystem in question). Suggesting to remove > journal just isn't fair: the journal is here for a reason. > And, finally, the kernel should not crash. If something like > this is unsupported, it should refuse to do so, instead of > crashing randomly. Write ordering trouble shouldn't crash the kernel, the way I understand it. Your journalled fs could be lost/inconsistent if the machine crashes for other reasons, due to bad write ordering. But the ordering trouble shouldn't cause a crash, and all should be fine as soon as all the writes complete without other incidents. Helge Hafting - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-raid" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html