Re: Delayed muting of studio speakers

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Oh well, the auto-mute didn't help.  The pulse logs don't show anything, either.

(base) cmayes@ninja:/home/cmayes $ sudo journalctl -u pulseaudio.service
-- Logs begin at Wed 2020-12-16 09:16:17 MST, end at Sat 2020-12-19 14:18:08 MST. --
-- No entries --

This time it was a quiet song (Iron & Wine's cover of Waitin' for a Superman), so that may be a factor.

Maybe I need a pre-amp?  I'll contact the speaker people to see whether they have any ideas.

Thanks,

-Chris

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 2:04 PM Chris Mayes <cmayes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Oh, I didn't realize that pulse was built upon Alsa.  I pulled up alsamixer and found an "auto-mute" option that was binary but listed as a fader on the display.  I've disabled it; maybe that'll help.

From what I've skimmed, it looks like this is to account for, say, a headphone jack being plugged in.  I rarely do this (almost always Bluetooth), so switching off this detection is low-risk.  Bluetooth might not trigger the switch, but I can always just switch off the main speakers.

Thanks for the lead!  I'll send an update if/when this solves the issue.

Thanks!

-Chris

On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 1:20 PM Matt Feifarek <matt.feifarek@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm not following everything that you're writing (including the file you mentioned... which I've never messed with, but I find on my system as /usr/share/pulseaudio/alsa-mixer/paths/analog-output.conf.common)

I think, though, that the file you mention might have to do with the alsa mixer labels in the ui of the console "alsamixer" program more than the lower level wiring, but I'm not sure. There are lots of dark arts in the alsa. Personally, I wouldn't mess with that stuff.

When the speakers drop out, is there anything in your logs? You can check with:
sudo journalctl -u pulseaudio.service

Are you certain that the software is muting, and it's not just some kind of dropout?

The system can't see what kind of speakers you have, since they're hooked up via analog line out. I doubt that impedance is an issue, but I'm not very familiar with the analog side of things.

If you're just using line out, PA should be fine, and you shouldn't have to worry about detecting, auto-detecting, or the like. Playing analog out through onboard sound is pretty normal, you shouldn't be having any trouble... but see what's in your logs.




On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 1:43 PM Chris Mayes <cmayes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi, everybody!

It takes me back to have subscribed via Mailman to an email distribution list.  I'm generally able to solve my issues via Googling, but this one's proven tricky.

I recently bought a pair of KRK Classic 5 speakers to replace a pair of M-Audio Studiophile AV 40 speakers that had developed a rapid popping noise in the internal amplifier.  The new speakers sound fantastic, but they have an odd spontaneous muting issue, at least as configured.

The issue is that the speakers seem to become muted (first one, then the other, usually L->R) after some time of playing without any issues.  My provisional solution is to crank the volume past 100%, which un-mutes them (though at an unpleasantly loud volume).  This clears up the issue, though it usually happens again a few minutes later once I've brought the volume back to a reasonable level.

Based on my Googling, I tried modifying analog-output.conf.common to "ignore" volume.  Here's the PCM block:

[Element PCM]
switch = on
volume = ignore
volume-limit = 2.0
override-map.1 = all
override-map.2 = all-left,all-right

Sadly, this didn't seem to make any difference.  What else might I try?

I have a passing familiarity with audio concepts, and one difference that I noted is that the new speakers have about half of the impedance of the old pair (which never had this problem).  Do sound cards use impedance to detect the presence of a device?  It's plugged into line-out (lime green) on an Asus Xonar SE (the motherboard (Asus PRIME Z390-A) had the same issue).

Also, the audio is fed to each speaker separately rather than being fed to a single speaker and bridged to the left via speaker cable.  Maybe that's a factor?

The brute-force thing would be to just mark the line-out port as "always on" and to skip attempts to detect whether there's a device connected.  Can PulseAudio do this?  More elegant solutions are also warmly welcomed.

Thanks,

-Chris Mayes

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