Am Sonntag, 15. April 2012 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Samstag, 14. April 2012 schrieb Sean McNamara: > > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Paul Menzel > > Hi Sean and Paul, hi everyone, > > > <paulepanter at users.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > Dear PulseAudio and Debian folks, > > > > > > > > > I am aware that is not an upstream issues per se, but indirectly it > > > is as written above, so I hope it is alright to post this message > > > here on the list. > > > > > > Although during the last years PulseAudio is doing its job pretty > > > well, there are still quite some people out there thinking it is a > > > mess. And indeed looking at the Debian bug tracking system [1] a > > > lot of bugs are reported there. There are 145 reports [2] most of > > > them concerning upstream things. Since for a long time, Debian did > > > not package the latest PulseAudio version, I guess a lot of them > > > are fixed already. > > > > > > Debian?s large user base experienced a lot of these problems and > > > therefore disabled PulseAudio and have not tried newer versions. > > > > Their loss. There's really nothing wrong with pulseaudio, unless you > > have specific hardware for which the ALSA drivers are still broken. I > > don't think we should try to actively do anything to improve > > pulseaudio's image; we're not a corporation and we don't do > > marketing. The software and its usefulness stands on its own: if > > people either > > [?] > > As one of these debian users I have a different oppinion - solely on my > user experience and not any technical considerations. I reported some > issues but then - as I admit, lost the patience to take the time to > follow through. I still use Pulseaudio on one machine regularily, but > I disabled it on my Amarok playback machine at home, cause I feared > that just following through my initial bug reports by providing > information and testing that help Pulseaudio developers to fix the > issues would take me to long time. And for what gain? Currently in my > perception it is win for me having removed Pulseaudio again on this > machine, it would be loss for me keeping it. > > Situation with Pulseaudio on this machine in brief: > > 1) USB sound card not detected after resume or on boot sometimes: > usb_set_interface failed log spams. I usually unplugged and replugged > it till it worked. I report this as I think issue 828 on the trac bug > tracker at that time - that I found quite cumbersome to use, glad to > read that it is freedesktop bug tracker now. Lennart asked me for some > more information. But it sounded quite complex and I was scared off. This was: 926: usb soundcard does not work reliably in pulseaudio, but works otherwise on that trac instance. > 2) Pulseaudio does not initialize volume correctly on that Sonica > Theater USB soundcard cause it has more channels than Pulseaudio > supports. I reported it here as: > > usb sound card: PCM has 8 channels, thats too much & cannot submit > datapipe for urb 0 > > But admittedly didn?t follow-through. I now reported this as: Bug 48730 - pulseaudio does not set volume on left channel correctly with Sonica Theater USB sound card https://bugs.freedesktop.org/48730 > On my work machine - a Thinkpad T520 - that seems to be easily capable > of stutterfree playback with Pulseaudio I installed Pulseaudio > systemwide. And then have > > martin at merkaba:~> ps aux | grep pulse | grep -v grep > pulse 1073 0.0 0.0 230828 3700 ? S<l Apr14 0:00 > /usr/bin/pulseaudio --system --daemonize --high-priority --log- > target=syslog --disallow-module-loading=0 > martin 2330 0.0 0.0 235048 5616 ? Sl Apr14 0:42 > /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start > > everytime I forgot to "exit 0" the start shell scripts on a Pulseaudio > upgrade. I think I may be able to add a dpkg diversion or something > like this. But I believe as a user I shouldn?t have to be doing this. > > I now reported a bug for that after I didn?t find one in the current > bug list: > > Bug 48728 - starts systemwide and sessionwide Pulseaudio daemons in > system wide mode > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48728 My initial post about this was: [pulseaudio-discuss] using pulseaudio with simultaneous playback from mutiple X sessions So I think one hour is over now. Thats enough constructivelyness for now. Now taking my bath with non pulseaudio played back music from my T23 ;) Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
