'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 31/08/11 10:05 did gyre and gimble: > On 07/04/2011 10:19 AM, David Henningsson wrote: >> On 2011-07-03 15:00, Colin Guthrie wrote: >>> 'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 01/07/11 14:03 did gyre and >>> gimble: >>>> I wonder if we're better off with the attached patch. I've seen more >>>> than one system where the volume control named "Front" is a part of >>>> audio path for headphones. The attached patch would be somewhat of a >>>> compromise: While we don't merge it into the path, as that would be >>>> regressing machines where "Front" isn't a part of the audio path, it >>>> would still enable sound on these machines. The question is if "Front" >>>> is turning on some output it shouldn't on some machines, but I think it >>>> wouldn't: this should (for all common systems I can think of) be fixed >>>> through the driver's auto-mute anyway. >>> >>> Seems like a reasonable compromise to me, but does anyone else have any >>> opinions on this? Or perhaps any cases where regressions could be >>> caused? >>> >>> (see my latest comment on the path_set_condense() method which checks >>> volume use for OFF which could actually get in the way here!!) >>> >>>> The other option would be to quirk every single machine that has this >>>> problem to a separate udev rule -> profile-set -> path .conf file. >>>> What do you think? >>> >>> Yeah I really don't like that option. If we do need some quirks here I'd >>> much rather see them implemented in a more fine grained way than with >>> udev rules... as it's a bit of blunt object. But ideally avoid it >>> altogether. >>> >>> Col >>> >> >> Ok, here's a patch properly formatted for inclusion. > > After having seen yet another with the same problem, I have now included > this patch in Ubuntu. I presume you don't mean the latter option (udev quirks)? If it's the first one, we should probably carry it upstream until a better solution is available. I'd rather do it once in a blessed way (even if it's a work around) than having different quirks in different distros if possible (makes generic upstream support easier). Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]