'Twas brillig, and David Henningsson at 01/07/11 14:03 did gyre and gimble: > I wonder if we're better off with the attached patch. I've seen more > than one system where the volume control named "Front" is a part of > audio path for headphones. The attached patch would be somewhat of a > compromise: While we don't merge it into the path, as that would be > regressing machines where "Front" isn't a part of the audio path, it > would still enable sound on these machines. The question is if "Front" > is turning on some output it shouldn't on some machines, but I think it > wouldn't: this should (for all common systems I can think of) be fixed > through the driver's auto-mute anyway. Seems like a reasonable compromise to me, but does anyone else have any opinions on this? Or perhaps any cases where regressions could be caused? (see my latest comment on the path_set_condense() method which checks volume use for OFF which could actually get in the way here!!) > The other option would be to quirk every single machine that has this > problem to a separate udev rule -> profile-set -> path .conf file. > What do you think? Yeah I really don't like that option. If we do need some quirks here I'd much rather see them implemented in a more fine grained way than with udev rules... as it's a bit of blunt object. But ideally avoid it altogether. Col -- Colin Guthrie gmane(at)colin.guthr.ie http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited [http://www.tribalogic.net/] Open Source: Mageia Contributor [http://www.mageia.org/] PulseAudio Hacker [http://www.pulseaudio.org/] Trac Hacker [http://trac.edgewall.org/]