Jeff, do you mean that operator may impair packets on edge and leave intact switching to umts? Dmitry. On 5/10/10, Jeff Brower <jbrower at signalogic.com> wrote: > Dmitry- > >> As far as I could understand, I was able to configure and >> compile symbian_ua_gui with TLS, VAS and G729 protocol to work with local >> Kamailio based server, all communications go through media-proxy, SRTP (on >> the same local server). >> >> In 3G mobile networks, everything works just fine and quality is superb. >> >> Now what I see when connecting two entities (Nokia E51) WHEN CONNECTED >> THROUGH EDGE (the place where both entities were located has *no* 3G >> access >> and this was simulated by switching the phones) there is a very bad >> quality >> of audio. >> >> Either the packets are too big for such a slow connection (you can mostly >> here about a half of each packet then overlapped by the next one) or my >> configuration lacks some other vital parameters. It is not like the >> behavior >> we hear in GSM connection ("robotizing", "bubbling") - just packets are >> overlapped. >> >> In general, the main problem with mobile networking is that you have a >> rather wide Inbound channel and very narrow Outbound channel. > > And the other main problem is that many carriers block (or impair) voice > transport over non-voice channels. In that > case you have to encrypt or otherwise "hide" RTP (and sometimes SIP) packets > on data channels. Also when you say you > can "hear a packet" that's impossible because you're talking about 10 or 20 > msec length of time -- less than 1/50th of > a second. > > My suggestion would be to put Wireshark on either side of Kamailio and find > out what is actually happening to your > packets. If it's a deliberate impairment you should be able to tell. > > -Jeff > >> Thus, if at >> least one entity has wide narrowband (3G, WiFi connected), the other side >> have clean incoming audio. The tests of the mobile network are the >> following: >> 1st entity: 0,22Mbps incoming, 0,07Mbps outgoing. >> 2nd entity: 0,15Mbps incoming, 0,02Mbps outgoing. >> >> According to at least this table ( >> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk698/technologies_tech_note09186a0080094ae2.shtml) >> the link has enough bandwidth to serve one connection. Even 9Kbps each >> direction should be enough. >> >> The questions are: >> 1. Whether anyone tested symbian_ua_gui or symbian_ua in EDGE phone mode, >> not 3G or WiFi? >> 2. What could I check in configuration of pjmedia, pjsip in general and >> symbian_ua/_gui in particular to make it work on EDGE? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Dmitry. > > -- Sent from my mobile device