It's also a matter of time, I think a lot of people try to be the first to answer something, or are answering from work on a busy day... they just don't have time to write explanations, or to RTFM themselves to verify (I'm guilty of this one), but they want to help. This is especially frustrating when sometimes people are asking for things that aren't obvious, and it takes 2 or 3 posts of them saying "no that won't work because..." before what they're *really* trying to do comes out. You write a long, descriptive post and they really are just trying to do something that won't work the way they want it to. :) I try to be polite, and apologize when I've been proven wrong. I think people get too easily frustrated answering the same question over and over, especially when it's something they've known for a long time. I learned almost everything I know (especially in regards to php) from experience and lots of reading, as I'm sure most of us on this list have, and it's just natural to quote a manual page or point someone there to give them a chance to learn on their own. An then sometimes a question is so obvious and has been asked so many times (by people in the list, by most people as they're learning) that the answer is very simple, and automatic. It's easier to say "try [this code]" than to risk insulting someone by saying "hey you should know better that's all wrong, look here and here and here and find the answer". Like I said, I try to be polite, and I'm very patient with people, but honestly, if they're writing a php script and using a database to back it, they're not newbies, or at the very least, they *should* be able to read a manual. -- Josh -----Original Message----- From: Lisi [mailto:lists@shemeshdirectory.co.il] Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 2:23 AM To: Snijders, Mark; 'Marco Tabini'; Terry Romine Cc: php-db@lists.php.net Subject: RE: sort by date There is a difference between a general, "how do I do this" question and a specific "here's my code, I can't find the bug" question. Sometimes people just need a quick answer specific to their code. Also, unfortunately, many times when people want to point to a resource they give the standard "RTFM". Believe it or not, many newbies don't always know how to do this!! A polite "it's too long to go into on the list, but you can read more about this here" with a link is much more helpful. -Lisi At 04:22 PM 11/6/02 +0100, Snijders, Mark wrote: >why does everybody always gives the answers?? why not a hint, or where to >search that they can learn something about it??? > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Marco Tabini [mailto:marcot@inicode.com] >Sent: woensdag 6 november 2002 16:08 >To: Terry Romine >Cc: php-db@lists.php.net >Subject: Re: sort by date > > >Ok, going out on a limb here... have you tried something like > >select e.id, title, location, address, contact, category, event_time, >urllink, descript, min(event_date) from eventTable e inner join >dateTable d on e.id = d.id group by e.id > >? > > >Marco > >-- >------------ >php|architect - The magazine for PHP Professionals >The first monthly worldwide magazine dedicated to PHP programmer > >Come visit us at http://www.phparch.com! > > > > >-- >PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) >To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Database Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
