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Mogens,

PhpMyAdmin is standalone in that your web pages do not interact with 
it.  It just provides an interface that lets you administer the DB and 
pretty much eliminates your having to go line mode ("mysql -u paul -p 
pwd", etc.)  It's available at http://www.phpmyadmin.net  It installs on 
your web server, and allows you to manipulate your DB remotely from your 
desktop or the coffeeshop.

I found the book on Amazon... just search on the full title and it's the 
first hit.

I've never done anything as "exciting" as coding on a 6800, but I'm an 
old Cobol nerd... also IBM mainframe assembler more recently trying my 
hand at .net stuff.

Paul


Mogens Eliasen said the following on 3/31/2006 5:03 PM:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks for the help.  It does help me a bit.  At least now I
> understand what a class is...  Sort-of.  A collection of templates or
> standard scripts - right?  It has nothing to do with school - and
> nothing to do with social structures...
>
> I am aware of the syntax issues, and I also fully understand how the
> PHP programming works, in principle. I do understand how computers
> work (I actually coded one of the very first Motorola 6800 in
> hexadecimal digital machine codes to control chemical analytical
> instruments back in the seventies... that was when Algol, Fortran, and
> Cobol were "advanced computer languages" - but anything made later
> than 1990 is Greek to me, except HTML....  What confuses me are the
> darn protocols and where and how and why they are needed - and which
> ones to pick!)
>
> Let me reiterate what I believe I understand from what you say:
>
> If I get my hands of PhpMyAdmin and install in on my web site and/or
> my computer, then I should be able to refer to that or to parts of it
> when I need my web pages to interact through the server's PHP?  It is
> like a collection of templates for coding that simply works?  I mean -
> no need for a cave man here to try to reinvent the wheel?
>
> If that is correct, then that is exactly what I was looking for to get
> started.  Where do I get it?
>
> Also, I would love to get my hands on that book - it sounds like
> something I could use.  I don't mind starting from "square 1" with the
> dummies - I can just quickly skate over stuff that is familiar - but
> it takes forever and brings zero results to get a kickstart at "square
> 7" when "square 3" and "square 5" are completely missing in my
> education...
>
> Could you be more specific about where to get that book?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mogens
>
>
> --- In php-objects@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Paul Bruesch <pbruesch@...> wrote:
> >
> > Mogens,
> >
> > I'm a bit ahead of you on the PHP curve, but that does not make me an
> > expert... but here are some thoughts from a fellow amatuer...
> >
> > First thing to recognize is that PHP is a server-side scripting
> > language, meaning that PHP interacts with the web server (e.g. Apache).
> > When the web server sees a file extension of .php (or .php3, or
> > whatever) it passes the page to PHP to parse all the <?php ... ?>
> > (and/or <? ... ?>) parts. EVERYTHING between <?php ... ?> must be in
> PHP
> > syntax.  PHP parses and processes these parts, and REPLACES them with
> > html, which the web server then returns to the client browser.
> >
> > PHP has a built-in interface to MySQL database (and others, including
> > ODBC.)  In order to minimize the tedious and repetitious code to
> connect
> > PHP to the database, fetch rows, process error conditions, and
> > disconnect, someone has written (or more likely, downloaded) a PHP
> > Class, which I think of as a series of functions.  After you play with
> > PHP for a little while, I think you will be able to pretty well figure
> > out how the class is currently being used... and it's probably unlikely
> > you'll have to change much, except possibly for queries, but that
> should
> > be fairly apparent after a bit of tail-chasing.
> >
> > Rather than write your own page to access the data, I suggest looking
> > into PhpMyAdmin.  It is an open-source PHP-based set of utility pages
> > that allow you to do almost anything against a MySQL database, e.g.
> > create / alter DB objects, issue queries, insert rows, etc.
> >
> > The book I got started with PHP/MySQL is the Sitepoint book "Build Your
> > Own Database-Driven Website Using PHP & MySQL"... I liked it 'cuz it
> > starts at the beginning.
> >
> > Hope this helps, at least a little,
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > Mogens Eliasen said the following on 3/30/2006 11:56 PM:
> > > Hi all - I am Mogens from BC in Canada - and I now realize that I have
> > > to learn this PHP thing, as I am left with a web site that uses it -
> > > with the programmer gone....  and, I need to make some changes and
> > > improvements....
> > >
> > > I am pretty good with HTML - but PHP has thrown me completely off....
> > > I have no clue where to begin.  I can make a little meaning out of
> > > some of teh code on my pages, but not at all enough to understand what
> > > is actually going on.   I bought some books and e-books about it,
> > > hoping to learn this - but I have yet to find anything that makes
> > > sense, WITHOUT assuming that I am a full-time professional tech who
> > > makes a living on maintaining a commercial web server...
> > >
> > > I have a database (MySQL) connected to my web site, and an affiliate
> > > program running that uses it - and it works.
> > >
> > > The tasks I am looking at includes what I believe are very simple
> > > tasks, like:
> > >
> > > - I need to be able to read a value in the database and display it on
> > > a web page that is in .php format with html coding;  I refuse to
> > > believe that I need to read a 600-page book in order to that...
> > >
> > > - I need to make a web page for myself that will allow me to search in
> > > the database for all purchases made by a given customer;  this one, I
> > > acknowledge, could be more cumbersome, as it deals with more than one
> > > parameter.
> > >
> > > - I need to use the above to do stats and math on the data; tis is
> > > less urgent, but it will be important for me later.
> > >
> > >
> > > I found a web page that appears to cover quite a bit of what I am
> > > looking for.  It is called a PHP CLASS - whatever that means.  The URL
> > > is http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/2943.html - it contains no
> > > explanations in regards to what it is and how it works.
> > > 
> > > It this where I should start?  Or will that just lead me into more
> > > frustrations?  Where do I find an overview of the terminology, so
> > > pages like this are a little better than Greek to me?
> > >
> > > Any ideas and suggestions are certainly welcome.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Mogens
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > PHP Data object relational mapping generator
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> > >
> > >
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