> in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?". http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/18/heres-what-you-find-when-you-scan-the-entire-internet-in-an-hour/ On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Sebastian Krebs <krebs.seb@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > 2013/8/20 Steven Staples <sstaples@xxxxxxxx> > > > > My recent question was simply an attempt to get documentation to > support > > > which server-side Web Language is the most popular. Both PHP and Java > can > > > be used server-side. > > > > > > I also realize that Java is used for native Android because I also > teach > > > Mobile Application Development (MAD -- I even coined the name). So, I > am > > up > > > to my butt in languages (and people who think different than me) -- I'm > > > just trying to get documentation to back up my what I think I know. > > > > Well, technically any language can be used server side, it is all on how > > you > > set up your server, no? > > > > No. But since node.js I lack an example :D But of course you need the > "link" between the language and the network. > > > > > > I would tend to think that the biggest out there, is > html/php/javascript... > > and next to that, would be asp, and then java. Do I have proof of this? > > No, can I get proof, I doubt it, and are there stats on this? To be > honest, > > in my opinion, that would be like asking "how big is the internet?". It > is > > virtually an immeasurable object. There are so many websites out there, > > that you can't search them all... > > > > Of course you cannot search them _all_, but again the link: > http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all > There are good hints, how "the internet looks like". For example a hoster > can simply look at the products he sell. Services like w3techs.com use the > reports from the server themself (in most cases the headers), or the > file-ending (doesn't work anymore that good, since most sites hide them ;)) > and extrapolate this. > Of course they are not exact, but I think they show the direction quite > accurate. > > > > > > PHP is simple, and yet powerful to use, and is pretty much the standard > for > > all hosting companies. > > > > Now, there is this link... > > http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html > > > > It shows Java as #1, and php as #5, but this is also for PROGRAMMING, > does > > not specify web based programming vs desktop vs MAD (thanks tedd ;) ) so > > the > > numbers do not really speak out in this application. > > > > Also it is the Tiobe-Index. Although it is widely-referenced, the way it > calculates their rankings is ... interesting. In fact it only tells you how > "loud" a community around a specific language is. So for example maybe Java > is #1, because it is so complex, that it leads to many questions in forums > and on stackoverflow. Or PHP is "only" #5, because most communication is on > IRC, or mailinglists. (disclaimer: Of course I faked this examples. > Actually I have no idea how the communities around Java and PHP "as a > whole" interacts primary, but I don't think, that they are all equal). > I just think, that the Tiobe-Index has a completely different view on "what > is a popular language", than I have. > > > > > > Does it really matter? PHP is very huge, widely used, and I would even > go > > so far as to say the 'norm' for website developers, and hosting > providers. > > > > Nope, it doesn't matter :) > > > > > > But that is my $0.02, and for me, I have been with PHP for 7 years > > professionally, and in college I took VB.net, ASP.net, C++, JAVA and PHP. > > Only recently have I gotten into C# for desktop applications. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > > > -- > github.com/KingCrunch > -- >From the desk of Dan Munro