Hi (again), Im doing a $res = odbc_prepare ... with a select statement and $succ = odbc_execute($res) im missing how to get the return information on whether I got any hit or not in the table now !! the REF MAN is clearly sloppy; in writing moment i see that $succ is a boolean (which is undefined about what is meant by success, retreiving ZERO rows is a success ? guess so) HOWEVER the sloppy thing comes with the REF MAN not explicitly saying that $res is not only the connecting from prepare but also "output" from the execution activity !! is that so ?