Re: phpsadness - P.C. shmee seee.

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Ashley Sheridan <ash@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 19:23 +0200, Richard Riley wrote:
>
>> Geoff Shang <geoff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
>> 
>> > On Sun, 5 Jun 2011, Richard Riley wrote:
>> >
>> >>> I don't.  I just don't want them to lock out my browser just because they don't
>> >>> support it.  Many pages which don't work optimally under Lynx can still be read,
>> >>> which is all I'm wanting to do anyway.
>> >>
>> >> They need to or there can be unintentional side affects that will
>> >> reflect badly on them and possibly you.
>> >
>> > Rubbish.  All they need to do is what everyone else does and say "This site may
>> > not work well on your browser, we recommend using Internet Explorer or firefox"
>> > (or whatever they support).  Then if I choose to use it, it's on my own head,
>> > which is fine by me.
>> 
>> Not rubbish at all. They owe you nothing.
>> 
>> Not everyone is you.
>> 
>> If they allowed incompatible browsers that caused havoc then before you
>> know it the great unwashed would be demanding more and better support or
>> complaining about lack of functionality. Doing what they do they make it
>> very clear from day one.
>> 
>> Dont like it? The APIs are open. Write your own interfaces to their
>> authentication and graph API and target the parts that wont result in
>> your accuont being banned for chucking access tokens around and breaking
>> their security model.
>> 
>> Simple solution : use an uptodate capable browser if you want to use
>> these technologies. I really dont see why people whine.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
> I think his point is that a lot of websites ignorantly stop browsers not
> on their list of compatible ones, and end up blocking browsers that
> would work perfectly well, just the original developer either wasn't
> aware or didn't care. This used to be in the form of Javascript
> detecting if a browser was IE, and if it wasn't, assuming blindly it was
> Netscape Navigator. Now Fx seems to be in that position, and many sites
> ignore perfectly good browsers like Chrome, Safari, Opera & Konqueror to
> name a few. All of these are modern browsers, yet they will be blocked
> by stupid code.

Ignorant blocking is a different matter and I would agree.

Blocking because someone is using out of date or incapable browsers is
another issue.

It is the latter, and specifically something with a rich UI that
requires secure connections like FB that I am discussing.


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