This isn't a C/PHP question, or optimization, it's a matter of PHP isn't always the center of attention, in terms of a development process. In each language there are advocates, and it's admirable, but ignorant in sight that what you're saying eliminates the rational, and logical thought that there are other languages that can be utilized as the center of development, and have higher level optimization in mind. If you use C, then as optimization, and software evolution occurs, you can move toward elimination the higher level prototyping languages, and move it toward the C (lower level)implementation. You start with just the spit out portion of C, and use the higher levels to prototype...then remove the higher level as you eliminate the inefficient portions, and replace with lower level, C, implementations of these higher level/platform dependent prototyped functions. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php