At 5:43 PM -0700 5/5/10, Daevid Vincent wrote:
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> From: tedd [mailto:tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 8:19 AM
> To: Daevid Vincent; php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: In need of CVS/SVN checkout script for
>-snip- stuff which fell on deaf ears
>
> tedd
*sigh* once again you people focus on something SOOOO off topic compared to
the meat of the thread -- which is a production repository checkout script.
Let me get this right -- you created a repository for people to
check-out/deposit scripts, but then deny some people access because
of their choice of browser? That seems counter productive. Do your
scripts only work for certain browsers?
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As for my site.
[*] I really don't care about the fringe browsers...
That obvious. But what happens when your client's do care?
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Give me a break man. I've got more important things to do.
Let me get this right -- it's more important to do something else
than to fix something you did wrong? If you're gong to take the time
to do something, then why not do it right? Remember, this is an
example of *your* work.
I spend a lot of my time making my code as good as I can get it, not
because of clients, or what others might think, but because of me.
It's a personal choice of mine to always learn and improve. If you
allow "I've got more important things to do" altitude to excuse bad
code, then you are only hurting yourself in the long run. I think you
know that.
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[*] Honestly, I also dislike Apple. I think it's stupid for them to make a
browser. I think they make crappy products.
LOL!
So you think that M$ makes better stuff, like IE6? Even Apple's worst
browser was better than that!
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As for CSS, inline styles, separation of logic, and all that other stuff
you ASSUME I don't use -- you are very wrong. I just happen to use a lot of
PHP to dynamically create various parts.
I'm not ASSUMING anything -- it's a fact the site you provided
doesn't follow said practices.
Additionally, you seem to be blaming PHP for the bad code but the
fact is you're just being lazy. Many of my sites are dynamically
created via PHP but still generate good code. One doesn't exclude the
other.
The point is that you want us to go to your site to check-out/provide
scripts, but the site you provided reeks of bad code. That's a bit
like a dinner saying "Don't mind the dirty silverware, just eat the
food."
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In some cases I inline styles where they are used one time or used
in a PHP function.
Okay, then why not learn how to do it right? Using a validator can
help you improve your code. Standards are not just for an elite group
of people but rather to improve overall coding practices. What's
wrong with that? Validation is giving you the opportunity to
critically review your code.
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If I had to choose between my
daevid.com site and one of the three you (presumably) illustrate as beacons
of "the way to do it" (http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com
http://earthstones.com), then I would take my site any day of the week.
Go ahead -- but many people won't -- as shown by your site's NULL
Google PageRank.
At least my sites have traffic. For example, according to today's
Google Analyitics report during the last 30 days my sperling.com site
has received 5970 unique visitors -- I'll take *that* any day of the
week over shutting people out.
Daevid -- after all is said and done, I know you are better than
this. I'm not sure why you are arguing the point.
Cheers,
tedd
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