I've been using PHP for a decade or so (since PHP/FI) and love it. The one problem that seems to always keep coming back on enterprise level projects is the lack of threading. This always means we have to write some back-end code in Ruby or Java or C/C++ and some hacky database layer or DBUS or something to communicate with PHP. Will PHP ever have proper threading? It would sure let the language take the next logical leap to writing applications and daemons. I love the idea that Rails/Ruby have where you can just load objects in memory once and keep using them from page to page (this is NOT the same as a $_SESSION, it's way more flexible and powerful). But more importantly, in one application I'm working on, we need to connect to an Asterisk system for the IVR abilities. This means we have Ruby doing all that fun stuff and PHP doing the web stuff, but we're also duplicating a LOT of work. Both Ruby AND PHP now have to have ORMs for the user who's calling in, advertisements served, products shown, etc. We could have used Rails for the web portion, but I want to stay with PHP and I'm sure I don't have to explain to you PHPers why that is. Without threads, PHP just isn't even an option or only one user would be able to call in at a time. The pcntl stuff is not feasible. It's a hack at best. Spawning multiple scripts is also a recipie for disaster. When will the PHP core-devs (Zend?) realize that PHP is much more than a hook to a database. It's much more than web pages. Is this a case of "it's too hard"? Or is it a case of PHP core developers just being douche-bags like they are about the whole "foo($set_this_parameter=$bar);" bull$hit??! (there is NO reason NOT to let the developer choose WHICH of the list of parameters they want to set in a function/method call aside from being stubborn! Especially when there are many parameters and you can't overload functions like you can in Java or other typed languages) As usual, I created a poll here too: http://www.rapidpoll.net/awp1ocy Past polls are below: http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e http://www.rapidpoll.net/arc1opy (although someone hacked this poll and loaded up the 76 votes like a little cheater) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
