I usually roll my own, unless there's a free lib / cms that does the trick near-perfectly, and is well-written (so extensible) About 80-90% of my tasks require me to use one of my own frameworks (i have 2, one "simple" and one with many graphical gimmicks), and i re-use / improve the mid-level functions & 3rd-party (free) libs. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php