I'm not looking to start a holy war here or re-hash the tired debate. I just want some hard cold numbers to look at. "Do you use a public framework or roll your own?" http://www.rapidpoll.net/8opnt1e And for those interested, here are the results of the last poll: "To add the final ?> in PHP or not..." http://www.rapidpoll.net/show.aspx?id=arc1opy I'm relieved to know I'm in the majority (almost 2:1) who close their opening PHP tags. :) -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php