On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 11:16 -0300, Martin Scotta wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 9:44 AM, tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > At 9:06 PM -0400 8/31/09, Paul M Foster wrote: > > > >> I'm sorry, but is anyone else annoyed by people who attempt to use IRC > >> jargon on mailing lists? For example, substituting "u" for "you". Oddly > >> enough, I'm seeing this primarily in foreign language posters, not in > >> native English speakers. It's often accompanied by English so broken I > >> don't even bother trying to decypher it, and sometimes an *attitude* > >> (after which, I blacklist the poster). > >> > >> Am I the only one? It's okay if I am. Just wondering. > >> > >> Paul > >> > > > > Paul: > > > > u r not the only 1. I h8 that 2! > > > > l8er :) > > > > tedd > > > > -- > > ------- > > http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com > > > > > > -- > > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > > > > Yo estoy de acuerdo en que respetar el idioma es importante, aunque claro, > redactando sobre la computadora tiene ciertos "beneficios". Yo, por ejemplo, > evito utilizar acentos. > > Entiendo que pueda molestarles el hecho de las comunes abreviaturas. Eso es > lo malo del lenguaje. Es de todos y, al mismo tiempo, de nadie. Nadie puede > cambiarlo individualmente, sólo se puede mutar a través de su uso por parte > la población, éste va cambiando día a día. > > Lamentablemente, a mi modo de ver, los mas jóvenes son quienes incurren en > este tipo de acciones, y no se reduce solamente al ingles, creo que este > fenómeno se da tambien en otros lenguajes (supongo) impulsado por la > deficiencia de los métodos de ingreso de texto de dispositivos moviles. > > ¿Por que utilizo el español? Después de todo hay una lista para ello. > El mundo en internet esté en ingles y yo, como hispano-hablante debi pasar > por un proceso de varios años para poder lograr entender, hablar y luego > redactar en ingles. ¿pasaron ustedes por el mismo proceso para participar en > esta lista? > > Aqui somos muchos, de diferentes paises y culturas, lo importante -a mi modo > de ver- es la comunicación, no el medio o la forma. Con lo cual esta > recriminación carece totalmente de sentido. > > Es realmente triste que en una lista de un lenguaje de "codigo abierto" que > pregona la libre participación y el mutuo beneficio a través de "compartir > conocimiento" se realize semejante acotación; aunque mucho mas triste es que > una persona oficialmente perteneciente a dicha comunidad se sume a dicho > reclamo. > > Please do not reply that It's a English based list. > Or is it allowed to discriminate here? > > As a non-english speaker I feel very uncomfortable with this thread. > > With the best intentions for the community, sincerely yours, > > Martin Scotta > Spanish Speaker I disagree (and I did translate and read your Spanish message). This mailing list is English (I'm not sure if similar ones exist for Spanish-speaking people) so I wouldn't say that the people on the list can be accused of behaving the same way as these 'txt'ers. While Spanish is a very popular language, English is by far the most popular language of the world, being spoken as a main language (not necessarily the mother tongue though) in more countries than any other. It's also the most popular second language for those that don't speak it as a main language. I think the main point of this thread was to point out the issue of those who use 'txt spk' for normal conversations. It makes a bit of sense to do this for phone text messages, and is only natural that it came to be (character limits on a message, easier to type on a phone, etc) but there should be no excuse for posters on this list. It takes barely any more time to type 'you' instead of 'u', but trying to read a message full of stuff like that, I get a migrane and feel disinclined to help out purely because it takes too much effort to understand! Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
