Re: Re: "use strict" or similar in PHP?

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Stuart wrote:
> 2009/3/1 Shawn McKenzie <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
>> Stuart wrote:
>>> 2009/2/28 Shawn McKenzie <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>>> Robert Cummings wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 00:11 +0000, Ashley Sheridan wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 14:32 -0500, Robert Cummings wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 00:02 +0600, 9el wrote:
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>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Robert Cummings <
>>>> robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 09:28 -0700, LuKreme wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 27, 2009, at 6:12, Hans Schultz <h.schultz78@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hahahah,I was thinking the same thing
>>>>>>>>>> The trouble is most people mean "compile a source file to an
>>>>>>>>>> executable binary" when they sat compile. By this measure, PHP
>> does
>>>>>>>>>> not compile.
>>>>>>>>> I add the following to the top of my PHP shell scripts:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    #!/usr/bin/php -qC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then I do the following:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    chmod 775 script.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then I run it as follows:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    ./script.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Look... and executable binary :) Don't say it's not binary. All
>> data
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> a hard disk is binary (although I do know what you mean ;)
>>>>>>>> Well you are running shell script style execution its not example of
>>>>>>>> Compiled code or Binary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The data in the file is ASCII or UTF text :)
>>>>>>> Which are subsets of binary representation ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Compilation happens when its zendOptimized or OpCoded. Its then is
>>>> converted
>>>>>>>> into binary content file.
>>>>>>> But one could probably quite easily set up a system whereby
>>>> eAccelerator
>>>>>>> or APC or Zend Optimizer cache bytecodes are torn from a file run
>>>>>>> similarly. As I said in an earlier post... the line between the
>>>>>>> definition of interpreted language and compiled language is quite
>>>> blurry
>>>>>>> these days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Rob.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://www.interjinn.com
>>>>>>> Application and Templating Framework for PHP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ASCII is only a subset of binary in a pedantic, literal sense. When
>>>>>> people say binary file, they mean one that contains characters which
>> are
>>>>>> outside the normal display spectrum, such as chr(0), etc.
>>>>> And the argument that PHP is not compiled requires a certain level of
>>>>> pedantry and it is still an incorrect argument since it most certainly
>>>>> is compiled to an intermediary virtual machine code.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Rob.
>>>> Still, in PHP $compile_time == $run_time.
>>>
>>> I haven't been following this thread, but this caught my eye as being
>>> completely wrong. There are distinct compile and execution phases when
>> PHP
>>> runs a script, and different rules apply to each. If you don't believe me
>>> try defaulting the value of a class variable to the result of a function.
>>>
>>> -Stuart
>>>
>> Rob, I wasn't talking about time.  I was talking about they're pretty
>> much the same as in when they execute.
>>
>> Stuart,
>>
>> Great, then show the OP how he can enforce strict error checking at
>> compile time and halt compilation and runtime altogether.
> 
> 
> Like I said I haven't been following this thread so have no idea what the
> original question was. I was just pointing out that your assertion
> that $compile_time == $run_time is incorrect.
> 
> As far as error checking goes the PHP engine performs syntactical checks
> during compile time but due to the highly flexible nature of the language
> it's not possible to do most error checking until runtime.
> 
> -Stuart
> 

Unfortuantely, my post was in reference to the OP's question and related
to other posts in the thread.  :-)

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Thanks!
-Shawn
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