2009/2/9 tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx>: >> > Now maybe you didn't mean it that way, but IMO that appears more >> demeaning >>> >>> of the poster than providing help. I'm surprised, because that's not >>> typical >>> of you nor this list. >> >> Indeed. Not really sure what I was thinking when I wrote it and I >> apologise for the attitude. > > We all have off days, no problem -- thanks for the apology. > > On my side of the world, it's amazing how ignorant people are. > > I have administrators at the college, where I teach, who think that php is > nothing more than a fad and not anything serious. In fact, I talked to their > web guy, who is a avid php/mysql developer, and he says that the > administration is asking to have php and mysql removed completely from their > server. They only want asp and oracle. In the last 6 years they have spent > over $22 million on trying get oracle to work and it still hasn't. > > That's the reason why I've been looking for php stats. I think people are like that everywhere, particularly above a certain level of management in my experience. I wish you luck in convincing them but I've found that PHP rarely wins when put up against the sales and marketing budgets available to Microsoft and Oracle. It's going to take a while for the majority of people to stop equating free with worthless or risky when the truth is that products from closed corporations carry more risk than open source software. You should tell them your QuickBasic story - that might start some mental cogs turning in their heads. -Stuart -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php