On Thursday 15 January 2009 17:45:35 Robert Cummings wrote: .... > > > > Hell, yes, signed to from start to end. > > > > After RoR, PHP guys (including Zend) goes nuts. > > Every one eat his brains to develop RoR like Framework. > > What are you smoking? I like my framework the way it is. I'm sure others > like theirs the way it is. In no way do I try to be like RoR and > probably for good reason since I hear mostly bad things about RoR. > Naah, I left somoking more than 3 years ago and having problems discussing in English (still no former education). And I'm sorry, My English better than your Turkish. So please be polute about my grammar errors. :) Everyone likes own dog-meat. And, last week I meet a tiny php shop to fix their code against remote file inclusion. Their code was uber mess and one thing make me sad. Their old coder (which he doesn't know anything about current php development trends) do the job wint under 20k phtml code. (most of k was spend for html tables). maybe 5 functions and so. I'm very sure to updating his code with current trends plus some improvement under (excluding the templates) in 20k I can give the answer for 80% of web demands. And if we look someting more TYPO3 / Joomla / Drupal can do the job. For Ruby, Perl, Python, you have have a web focused frame work to get job done in faster. And that php already web focused language. we need faster, more organized, better language, not uber bloated framwork from ZEND. > > I wish to see fixed function parameter names > > Good luck with that... it's been shot down several times on the PHP > internals list. > > > , option orders, easy and strong input validation in PHP 6. > > Isn't the filters stuff available in PHP5 already for doing stronger > validation. It's not like input validation is difficult. > > > And they give full effort to generate Zend Framework. > > Huh? > > > Then what? It still harder than Ror... > > What is? PHP? What are you talking about? I mean, ZEND Framework still harder to handle than RoR. > > > Hell yes, Compete own community. teh best way to spend your resources... > > Internal competition only makes something better. If all you have are > yes men, then the only answer you'll get is "yes". Having those who > dissent in opinion provides a basis for different views and approaches > to problem solving. May survival of the fittest benefit all both from > the perspective of getting a better final product and from the > perspective of learning from mistakes along the way. Yes of course and that Zend was not M$, they not swim in to dollar filled pools. And wIth zend framework, Zend begin rivalling against CI, Symphony, Solar and other popular framework communuties. (including yours and mine). > Cheers, > Rob. > -- > http://www.interjinn.com > Application and Templating Framework for PHP Regards Sancar
