Re: New to PHP

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I don't want to get into a bottom vs top posting debate.  Just know that some 
of us prefer top posting.   There's no right/wrong answer to this.

Trimming is always good, though.

I second the recommendations for this mailing list as a good source (as well 
as reading what's posted and seeing if you know or can find out the answer) 
as well as php.net.  The online documentation has tons of great code 
examples.

The best way to learn is really by doing.  Think of a project or exercise 
you'd like to try and see if you can do it in PHP.

One of the best things you can learn as you go, is when it's appropriate to 
use PHP and when it isn't.  Sometimes you can solve your problems with 
simple HTML.  PHP can be useful in many situations, though.  Simple 
situations to some very complex ones.

Also, if you come from a programming background, chances are PHP will 
accomodate whatever programming style you're used to but also remember that 
there are so many pre-made functions in PHP to do so many things, you may 
end up discovering that a function you thought you had to write could be 
done with a simple PHP command.

I worked with a guy once who came from a C programming background.  He wrote 
many functions that he didn't need to because he assumed PHP was as sparse 
as a "real programming language".  

At any rate, you'll learn tons as you go along and probably look back at your 
early efforts and say "What was I thinking?".  Don't worry about it, comes 
with the territory.

-TG

----- Original Message -----
From: Wolf <lonewolf@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Gary <gwpaul@xxxxxxx>
Cc: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:18:08 -0400
Subject: Re:  New to PHP

> 
> ---- Gary <gwpaul@xxxxxxx> wrote: 
> > Well...thank you all for the warm and friendly welcome, I will probably 
try 
> > to steer one of my projects to php (or at least a portion of) in a short 
> > while.
> > 
> <!-- SNIP -->
> 
> Gary, one thing to keep in mind is to BOTTOM POST and TRIM your posts.
> 
> By Bottom Posting (common when on a mailing list or NG) it gives greater 
context as you read through the previous posts and by the time of getting 
to where the new response is, it is in sync.  No skipping back and forth to 
read to get the context.
> 
> Trimming is appropriate when addressing a specific entry or when cutting 
off Dan's 12 line signature block to reply to a message.  ;)
> 
> And yeah, you'll find a number of us aren't as serious as others may like.  
:)
> 
> Welcome to the list.  I also keep www.php.net handy and a general rule of 
thumb when using Firefox if you have the google search plug-in running is 
to use "php: <question>" where <question> is what you are looking to do.  
By prefacing the search with php: google tends to give greater responses 
since it looks for PHP first and then the question.
> 
> HTH.
> Wolf


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