I had a free Guru.com account when I was working freelance and job hunting and all that, and I didn't bother submitting a single proposal because I could see how all the jobs went. People would submit a reasonable proposal and eventually it would get to the point where someone was bidding $1 to do the job. That was $1 plus $5,000 or something in "additional work" or some stupidity. I wasn't about to jump into a pit of idiots and compete in an obviously losing battle with unscrupulous bidders. Regardless of whether they were overseas or not, it's still a losing proposition for someone like me. Not only do you have to compete with unfair bidding practices and predatory sales people, but you have to fight the stigma of the innevitable crap jobs all these other guys may be doing and have to prove yourself above and beyond what you'd have to. Not to mention, if you DO get a proposal from someone who's been burnt before, there's a higher likelihood that they're going to put unreasonable demands on you, hoping to control the 'burn' the second time around. Blarg. Screw it. hah -TG ----- Original Message ----- From: tedd <tedd.sperling@xxxxxxxxx> To: <php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 11:13:11 -0400 Subject: RE: [Semi-OT] Tonns of jobs available > At 9:36 AM -0500 10/10/08, Boyd, Todd M. wrote: > >www.rentacoder.com > >www.scriptlance.com > > > >...and probably a hundred others. I just find I'm often drastically > >outbid by someone from a developing 2nd-world nation that doesn't mind > >building and designing an entire corporate web application for $10 ($3 > >of which is generally taken by the crowd-sourcing site on which the > >transaction takes place). > > > >The thing is, though, that I'm sure a lot of those jobs go unfinished or > >are "finished" sloppily. When people stop caring so much about squeezing > >their dollar, and start to care about actually getting a good product > >from their seller/coder relationship, I might get back into it. > > I had a paid account with guru.com and spent a full year answering > proposals (> 100) -- I didn't get a single job. It was a complete > waste of time for me, but I am sure it works for others. > > I just landed a client who had a very bad experience with rentacoder. > So, it appears that the 2nd-world nation programming experience is > providing some kick-back work for honest programmers. At least I > receive more business from people who have had problems with "cheap" > programming than those high-profile sites who sell "cheap" > programming serves. > > Cheers, > > tedd -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
