> -----Original Message----- > From: news [mailto:news@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Colin Guthrie > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 9:44 AM > To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Why MS Won't Retire Browsers -- was: Interntet > Explorer 8 beater 2 > > Boyd, Todd M. wrote: > > <tirade> > > > > Okay... here it goes. I'm sick and tired of people talking trash on > Windows Vista. It came pre-installed on my laptop (Home Premium... not > Business Pro, sadly) and I haven't had any issues with it whatsoever. > Some of my WinXP programs don't show up in the start menu when they're > installed... but it's not Microsoft's fault that software companies > haven't taken the initiative to adapt to the new Vista framework > (which, let's be honest, can't require all that much effort in most > cases where base-level operating system stuff isn't involved in the > actual program). > > > > Annoyed with the UAC that asks you to confirm every administrative > decision you make on your computer? Quit being a weenie and just > automate it with RegEdit (or, if you're using Business, there is an > explicit option for it in the Control Panel). > > > > Annoyed with all the bells and whistles in the Aero theme that is > installed by default? Don't use it! I remember the first time I > installed a Linux distro that came pre-bundled with KDE... I took the > time to remove all the fading, transparency, window animations, > bouncing cursors, etc. (actually, I just switched to XFCE instead). I > don't see the difference. If you want to get high and mighty with a > retort about rolling your own Linux distribution--well, you've just > sailed far beyond ANY pre-packaged OS (Mac, Windows, Linux, or > otherwise) and the point is moot. > > > > Find a new scapegoat to complain about, PLEASE. Bitch about WebKit's > lack of XMLDOM instantiation. Bitch about Google launching pay-for-play > high resolution satellite imagery. Bitch about the Xandros EEE being > squashed by Intel. Bitch about Facebook's API and their draconic > limitations on markup language and Javascript... but this "Vista sucks > and I won't comment as to why" broken record has run its course. > > > > </tirade> > > All well and good. Use what you like etc. etc., I'm all for freedom, > but > that still doesn't mean that we wont be "stuck" using the legacy Vista > IE8 in 10 years time because we don't want to upgrade to "Windows ZX > 48" > or whatever at the time. And IE8 doesn't even support CSS 5 or HTML > 7!!! > I mean it's just sooooooo last decade and I don't want to have to have > to spend extra time catering for people who still insist on using it. > > | s,IE8,IE/Firefox/Opera/Safari/etc, > > The fact it's MS to me doesn't matter here. The same logic applies to > all browsers. I still think that sunset dates for web browsers is a > good > idea. I agree wholeheartedly. Also, I despise Internet Explorer with the vehemence of a rabid dog. One of the sort-of-legacy web applications used where I work bombs out in IE every now and again due to the way IE handles cookies and sessions. It fails at random (seemingly), and I've tried every security and privacy setting imaginable to try to get it to work again. I had the EXTREME pleasure yesterday of telling one of the staff that I didn't care that she liked Internet Explorer--Firefox (or even Safari/Google/MOSAIC/WHATEVER) never had the same problem, and that she was required to install it in place of Internet Explorer in order for the app to function as intended. Booyah! Granted, that's not exactly the most professional solution. However, it works 100% of the time, and I don't have a month to dedicate to investigating every session/cookie flaw in Internet Explorer and patching either the person's installation or the back-end web application. Every now and again, the bureaucratic paranoia over spent man-hours works in my favor. Todd Boyd Web Programmer
