Re: Re: Re: A Little Something.

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2008/5/21 Stut <stuttle@xxxxxxxxx>:
> I was going to ignore this, but I'm in a confrontational mood today, so
> please accept my apologies for the noise.
>
> On 21 May 2008, at 14:08, Michelle Konzack wrote:
>
>> Am 2008-05-12 15:40:54, schrieb Stut:
>> Note:  I am working for the french Ministry of Defense.
>
> Ooh, give 'em a peanut. I live and work in the UK and every site I work on
> that uses Google Analytics has nothing specific about Google Analytics in
> the privacy policy. They all talk about use of cookies, IP addresses and
> server logs and I've never had any complaints.

http://www.google.com/analytics/tos.html

7. PRIVACY . You will not (and will not allow any third party to) use
the Service to track or collect personally identifiable information of
Internet users, nor will You (or will You allow any third party to)
associate any data gathered from Your website(s) (or such third
parties' website(s)) with any personally identifying information from
any source as part of Your use (or such third parties' use) of the
Service. You will have and abide by an appropriate privacy policy and
will comply with all applicable laws relating to the collection of
information from visitors to Your websites. You must post a privacy
policy and that policy must provide notice of your use of a cookie
that collects anonymous traffic data.

So yeah, you don't need to specifically mention google-analytics. And
you're definitely
not allowed to link it to any personally identifying information. On
pain of Lawyers.

> But, at risk of labouring the point, I don't have an issue if you decide to
> worry about inconsequential things like websites gathering anonymous usage
> data so they can improve the experience for you. I couldn't care less if you
> disable Javascript to prevent evil popup ads. I don't really give a damn if
> you decide to use lynx as the ultimate surfer condom.

Really, I've no problem with sites gathering anonymous usage data. I only get
a little more wary when it's a third-party collecting the data as I
have no relationship
with them.

On the other hand, it really does depend who the third party is: I'm not that
bothered about Google. But I would block anything and everything from
Phorm or the like without a second thought.

> My issue is purely and simply that if someone decides to remove half the
> code for something they should not feel they have the right to complain to
> the developers when they see errors. You wouldn't expect a car to work if
> you removed all the cylinders, would you? But I'd love to see the persons
> face when you take it back and complain.

I don't think that's an accurate metaphor. In this case they were
allowing all the
code from the originating web server to run, but were blocking an independent
third party server.

It's more like expecting a car to work when you remove the trailer.

> Sometimes I wonder why I bother.

Pure contrariness? That's certainly my major motivation.

-robin

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