On Thursday 24 April 2008 14:52:12 Eric Butera wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Sancar Saran <sancar.saran@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > It works. It needs to read tons of docs before writing someting useful > > and it was #$!@$#$#@ to writing programs with zend framework. > > It has tons of real unit tests to know it really works. Plus there > are a lot of eyes on it from various platforms. So you're pretty much > guaranteed that it is going to work out for you in the end. It has a > very nice manual, better than any other attempt I've seen in our > community. I think some of the api's do feel a little weird but I > understand that after releasing you can't just break BC for glam. :) > > With all of that said... I tend to stay away from a lot of it though > because it feels very heavy to use. I guess that is how it has to be > when you can override/hook into so many different things (specifically > the controller). Hello, I did not say to it did not work. It works certanly... And I do not know anything about overriding and hook in the controller. AND Thanks, with your answer my mind flashes I finally realize the all of those framework madness and OO nazisim. Here My Conclusion... After booming web, tons of unemployement Desktop programmer changes their jobs to create dynamic web pages to earn more food. Meanwhile some kids form lazytown doing some very interesting sites (and earn some big bucks) using some kind of scripting language named PHP. After some inspection they found interesting facts and began to scraming. "OMG. OMG, those nuts writing dynamic web pages with functions only. They even don't know anything about object oriented programming." Then some of then really pissed off. Because those kiddies doing very popular sites even using some proper programming skillz... Then they create a mission for themselves to good of community. "Lets teach them how to write programming with proper way" And they forget someting... This was web industry. Your instances are 1 sec. In 6 month your aproach was old and dull. Somebody in somewhere doing different way to do very interesting things and you have to refactor entire thing. >From My Point of View None of those frameworks can cover everything for world of HTML and WEB. And I do not remember when I was extend somebody elses classes... I'm pretty sure everone has lots of mini functions in their personal libs which does not touch and use for years. But classes ? Or frameworks I'm not sure Regards Sancar -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php