Re: Sometimes I wonder why I even started programming...

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On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 23:52 +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> Robert Cummings wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-02-28 at 20:43 +0000, Nathan Rixham wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> Eric Butera wrote:
> >>> I can hit tab and shift/tab too and it puts in spaces for me.
> >> [snip]
> >> Robert Cummings wrote:
> >>  > Uhhhm, I hit the tab button also and it does the right thing (namely
> >>  > inserts 4 spaces). Also, when I hit enter it auto tabs.
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> *kicks zend studio* [and nano and textpad and dreamweaver] :(
> >>
> >> what ide's editor's do you two use? zend's use of javaw is killing my 
> >> win2k3 dev machine anyways.
> > 
> > I don't use an IDE. I use JOE. It's a terminal based editor. Works the
> > same whether I'm local or remote. The nice thing about linux is how easy
> > it is to make things work the way you want. My browser source viewer
> > links to a PHP wrapper script that pops up a gnome-terminal with the
> > specification to load the JOE editor on the page source. My default
> > editor in linux is JOE. It just works. Plain, simple, 100% keyboard,
> > keystroke macros, etc, etc. I love it. You probably won't :)
> 
> couldn't be further from the truth! sounds perfect - I spend most of my 
> life in putty anyways, generally using nano to "type".

I did say probably... you may be the only one ;)

>   When
> > working I click an icon on my taskbar, it opens three terminals in my
> > favourite layout. I usually use one to edit HTML, one to edit whatever
> > module I'm working on, and another for whatever else needs to be done
> > (CVS commits, CVS updates, SSH, etc).
> 
> see I've only recently started using versioning software all the time, 
> I'm currenly svn'ing, how does CVS weight up against it?

I need to look into SVN. I've been meaning to take a look at it for over
a year now but the motivation isn't terribly strong since CVS does
everything I need and I have a lot of stuff in CVS. The main problem
with CVS I see is that it can be pig-assed slow when updating. Also it
has deficiencies when handling directories. I imagine whenever I get
around to taking a look at SVN I'll also have a poke at GIT.

> I use a workspace to the right of
> > my dev workspace in which I load my browser for checking layout and
> > JavaScript etc. To the left I have a workspace where I keep a tails on
> > my log files. I rarely tab through more than 3 windows in a workspace
> > and I rarely use the mouse.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Rob.
> 
> snap, keyboard for 99% of things, I seem to have my left hand glued 
> around ctrl/shift/tab/z/x/c/v/q
>
> cheers for giving away some of your set up, I'm going to give joe a try!

No problem.

Cheers,
Rob.
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