Re: Re: disable referer ? (was: Framed & Linked Content)

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On Jan 31, 2008 1:29 PM, Richard Lynch <ceo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, January 31, 2008 1:19 am, Per Jessen wrote:
> > Richard Lynch wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, January 29, 2008 12:48 pm, Per Jessen wrote:
> >>> Robert Cummings wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Actually, now you made me think on it... the primary reason I
> >>>> disable
> >>>> referrer logging is because it will also pass along lovely
> >>>> information
> >>>> such as any session ID embedded in the URL. So if you happen to
> >>>> get
> >>>> on
> >>>> a malicious site, they could access the account from which you've
> >>>> come.
> >>>
> >>> Hmm, interesting idea.  I wonder if the sessionid isn't tied to the
> >>> IP-address even when it's part of the URL?
> >>
> >> It CANNOT be tied to the IP address, because most users' IP
> >> addresses
> >> are not static.
> >
> > I think it is for the duration of the session. Mine certainly is.
>
> Yours might be.
>
> AOL users are *NOT*.
>
> In peak periods, an AOL users' IP address with change with every HTTP
> request.
>
> Further, large corporate users will ALL appear as a single IP address.
>
> >> Google for "session hijacking" for more info.
> >>
> >>> Still, I can't help thinking that if this is a serious problem, it
> >>> would have been dealt with long ago.
> >>
> >> War is a serious problem.
> >>
> >> So is murder.
> >>
> >> So is people cutting me off in traffic. :-v
> >>
> >> None of them have been dealt with effectively yet.
> >
> > Sure it has - nobody cuts me off in traffic here. :-)
> >
> > Regardless, I did some googling and read a bit about session hijacking
> > and such.  I still don't see much of a serious problem.  When Firefox
> > switches off REFERER by default, we can talk again.
>
> Suppose only 0.1% of the Internet users have REFERER off.
>
> You say "That's not much.  0.1%"
>
> Now suppose there are a billion people who use the Internet.
>
> What is 0.1% of a billion?
>
> Do the math.
>
> If you have even a few thousand visitors, you are likely getting at
> least a few that have no REFERER...
>
> --
> Some people have a "gift" link here.
> Know what I want?
> I want you to buy a CD from some indie artist.
> http://cdbaby.com/from/lynch
> Yeah, I get a buck. So?
>
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The fact it can be tampered with should be enough to ignore it, right?

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