i like opera for 4 reasons, 1. it renders fast 2. when i have 50 tabs open, its still responsive 3. it supports ctrl+z, wicked feature :> 4. when you close and reopen, all the tabs from before are still there; key however, firefox is the champion for web development. not only is firebug awesome, but i still use the older web developer plugin. its good for showing form details, outlining things, and clearing the cache, all very quick to get to and execute. for a while i tried the multiple browser thing. but managing bookmarks in more than one browser is a pain. also, have you ever looked at memory consumption on ur pc w/ 2 browsers running?? get another gig for that :) so, despite some of the klunkieness of ff, that is what i use for browsing and development. eric, thanks for the tips on the safari plugins, Drosera & the Web Inspector, ill definitely install those for my safari debugging :) -nathan