On Jan 30, 2008 11:29 PM, Casey <heavyccasey@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I don't think constructors return the object: im starting to think this as well. what for example happens when there is not __construct() method ? class Test { private $blah = ''; } here $blah is part of a new instance, before __construct() would get called, if it was defined. this makes me think php creates an internal object, and optionally lets __construct() alter it if defined. i think somebody may have already said that, but i didnt feel like wading through the previous posts for it.. -nathan -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php