Hey Stephen.. gotta kind of agree with you about the friends aspect of the net!!! i've often thought that there's a business to be had, by actually setting up irc channels/forums/threads where you have people pay some small amount to actually be able to be part of a system where you're going to get reasonable answers to questions... you minimize the blatant lazy questions, as you've had to pay to belong to the channel... and at the same time, you can still help people with really basic questions who really are trying to resolve something, but they simply need help... you could probably easily get businesses to sponsor this as well.. peace.. -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Johnson [mailto:maillists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 12:47 PM To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Banned from #php It seems to me... And this is just my unimportant opinion.... But... Your initial question was a violation of the RTFM and STFW tenets... Both would have provided you answers to such a basic question rather quickly.. Then when wolfpaws provided you more information (print_r added to your google search provides the answer in the second listing) you again violated the above tenets. (second strike if you will ) Then when you were finally spoonfed an answer that you should have known before ever even starting your first session in PHP... You thanked wolfpaws by telling him he was obnoxious... (third strike and your banned)... Again, I am not a member of #php or any irc channel for that matter, and I have no idea who this wolfpaws is, but his actions seem justified to me... And that is just from hearing your side of the story ... Lastly, you said : > I hope this is the right place to ask because I simply can't find any place > else to ask for help. No, I do not believe that this is the right to ask this question, since it has nothing to do with PHP, and apparently the moderator of said IRC channel is not here... Remember, when coding, php.net and google are friends. Everyone else hates you. It is not personal, it's just a fact. -- Stephen Johnson c | eh The Lone Coder http://www.thelonecoder.com continuing the struggle against bad code http://www.thumbnailresume.com -- > From: Brenden Wilson <brenden.wilson@xxxxxxxxx> > Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:19:17 -0800 > To: <php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Banned from #php > > I hope this is the right place to ask because I simply can't find any place > else to ask for help. > > I have been banned from chatting in ##php and I really don't deserve it. > > The chat log can be found here: > http://pastebin.com/f6941dae7 > (I've deleted conversations from other people) > > > Wolfpaws banned me for calling him obnoxious. I don't know if he does this > to everybody, but he rarely helps me but almost always calls me an idiot for > asking questions. He has been doing this for several weeks now and I have > only once said something in return to him. He didn't even give me a > warning.... > > > How can I get unbanned? I'm not a problem in the least bit and when I can > legitimately answer somebody else's question, I always do. > > > > Thanks, > Brenden Wilson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php