On Tuesday 17 July 2007, tedd wrote: > At 9:26 AM -0500 7/17/07, Larry Garfield wrote: > >On Tuesday 17 July 2007, tedd wrote: > >Once I have written code or words, the time I have spent on that is gone. > > I will never get that time back, regardless of whether or not I get paid > > for it after the fact. > > Ok, then it would be an acceptable excuse for your employer not to > give you a paycheck -- after all, you already spent the time, right? > That doesn't make sense dude. That has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm saying. > I don't mean to be putting words in your mouth, but it sounds like > your claim here is absurd. Except that you are doing so, every time you reply. > I'm not arguing copyright, or any other government bullshit, I'm > simply saying that we all work for someone and we all should be paid > for our efforts. I am not disputing that. The law says that you have a right to require such payment in return for a copy of said work. That is not in dispute. It also has nothing to do with "theft". > An author of any digital material (code, books, music, whatever) > should be paid for their effort just like anyone else. The idea that > because the work product is digital, and thus there was no effort > expended in making a copy, and thus implies no obligation to the > author, is just plain wrong. Please point me to anywhere that I made a distinction between electronic and physical media as a recording mechanism for the work. I didn't. Again, you're making up things that I supposedly said. > I've written software all my life and I have on numerous occasions > run into individuals who ask something like "Can you get me a copy? > It's not worth it for me to pay for it because <you add in whatever > reason you want>. I would just like to get a copy." Ah, so that explains the chip on your shoulder that's apparently so large that you are seeing things. > However, these same people would be outraged if someone took a cent > from their paycheck. > > We can't have double standards because of the medium -- work is work. Once again, I have not said there should be. I don't know who you think you're responding to, but it's not me. > If you didn't mean it that way -- my apologies. How you got from what I said to what you're pretending I said I do not comprehend. Try actually reading what I wrote before you accuse me of trying to destroy authors' livelihood, m'kay? -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
