The (things I thought were subtle) jokes aside, hopefully the examples can be used as some kind of point-of-reference for those who may follow along in the future. When they Google for a solution like the one we're discussing and the words of this motley crew come up as one of the first results, there should be something showing what the hell we mean! -- Daniel P. Brown [office] (570-) 587-7080 Ext. 272 [mobile] (570-) 766-8107 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php