On Wed, July 26, 2006 8:40 am, Jochem Maas wrote: >> How did you know that he had an extra space in $u? Actually... Since he's getting them from a file, and since fread() and friends INCLUDE the newline at the end, I would now suggest that the "extra" character is a single newline, and not a space. The correct solution there is to remove the newline, and only the newline, in case somebody wants to use a space at the end of their password. Even if space is not allowed, using trim() here is not the Right Place to enforce that validation of a password. I'm probably being to pedantic and picuyane again, aren't I? :-) -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php