Re: Re: PHP Frameworks - Opinion

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On Thu, 2006-08-03 at 14:42 -0300, Manuel Lemos wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> on 08/03/2006 09:25 AM Paul Scott said the following:
> > The main thing in Manual's post that got me writing this in the first
> > place was :
> > 
> > "Imagine if there would be only one PDBC (JDBC for PHP). Instead of that
> > we have a never ending choice of PHP database abstraction layers that
> > does not help newcoming developers that are lost and don't know what to
> > use."
> 
> I admit I have not expressed myself clearly. What I meant is not that
> people should be disallowed to implement alternative APIs, but rather
> that they should not feel the need to do it.

I think you may be missing the point. Many people probably don't feel
the "need" to create an alternative API, they may just feel the desire
to do so. It's a great way to practice your skills, and in the end, you
have a nice API that meets your needs.

> In the Java world, JDBC is the de facto standard because Java developers
> do not feel the need to develop other database APIs. That happens
> because JDBC is a standard API defined by several players from the SQL
> database world that sit together and defined a consensual API specification.
> 
> In the PHP world there is no such organization nor the vision of the
> benefits of cooperating to define such standards. I already gave an
> example of the benefits of having such standard API specifications in
> the other comment to Rob.

Almost all APIs can be wrapped when necessary. Hell, the PHP engine is
in many cases just a wrapper around a C API.

Cheers,
Rob.
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