Thank Mr.tedd....(I guess you are a man)
I think you should check one of my site http://aztec-indianart.com
while you're surfing this site actually you are visiting one page only with
different variable (see url).
I used many data in html, php, inc, txt, css, js and MySQL off course. then
I include them in one page depends on the variable
please give me your opinion about what I did (you know I just learned PHP,
like I said before)
sorry for my English (I'm Indonesian)
----- Original Message -----
From: "tedd" <tedd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "BBC" <bbc_danang@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Alex Major" <alex.major@xxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Using PHP/HTML effectivly
At 1:28 PM -0700 6/14/06, BBC wrote:
I used many functions as template to change the html syntax.
this is one of the function as a sample:
<?php
function tabletag($border="0",$width="100%",$height="100%",$cellpadding =
"0",$cellspacing="0",$style="")
{
print ("<table width=\"$width\" height =\"$height\" border=\"$border\"
cellspacing=\"$cellspacing\" cellpadding=\"$cellpadding\"
style=\"$style\">");
}
?>
so I don't need to type "<table ....>", just call those functions.
and I don't think it works slowly (cause we just set one function for many
tables)
BBC:
Personally, I see what you are trying to do, but I would not be going that
route.
Like many others, I don't work in a shop where one group does php and
another does the designing and such -- I'm just a one man band who has to
do it all and make it work.
For me, I use php/mysql, html, js, and css all together to do stuff --
but, I try to keep them as separate as I can.
CSS helps a LOT because I can use simple html tags like:
<table>
...
</table>
And put the presentation code for the table in css. CSS seldom mixes with
php and it helps reduce the amount of code I have to review. Plus, css
separates "look" from performance (i.e., php/js/html) -- I can change one
without worrying about the other.
Typically, the amount of html code I have is far less than php. I often
roll html code segments (like header and footer) into php includes and
keep them tucked away so I don't have to look at anything except:
include(header.inc);
Now, there is html code that I have to "mix" into my php and I usually
separate it by using the method you first suggested, such as:
<?php
... bunches of php code
?>
bunches of html code
<?php
... bunches more of php code
?>
To me, that's easy to read and I have no problem mixing stuff that way.
Occasionally, I have to "intermix" html and php together in the same
statement such as filling text field from a dB, such as:
<input type="text" size="7" maxlength = "7" name="price" value="<?php
echo($price); ?>">
But, it's pretty clear that I'm using php to set what the value is in an
html statement.
Even fewer times, but I still do, I intermix css, js, html, and php all
together, such as:
<td class="search_btn">
<input type="button" value="Album"
onclick="window.location='search.php?unique_id=<?php echo($unique_id);?>'
">
</td>
But still, I think it's pretty clear what I'm doing. CSS takes care of how
the button looks; js takes care of what happens when the user clicks; php
provides something from the dB; and html is the glue that holds everything
together. They all work in concert.
One of the things I keep in mind is when I start using a lot of escape
characters (as you did above), then I'm not doing it the "best way" (IMO)
and I look for another solution.
I would much rather see code
?>
<table>
...
</table>
<?php
Than to intermix it as you did.
Now, purest would like all languages to be separate and I can't argue with
that -- however -- if this is what it takes to get the job done, then what
choice do you have? I look at it all like it's one big language and that
works for me -- others mileage may vary.
hth's
tedd
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