Yes, I absolutely agree that Rasmus is awesome and his accomplishments are far and beyond amazing, but I'm saying that I think that Rasmus is motivated to stay true to PHP's philosophies and not be willing to rethink them: that is what I meant by that. In no way am I saying that Rasmus doesn't DESERVE to align your theories with or your ideas with, but I think that he may be too vested in PHP and what he has been doing to realign himself. But of course, that is just conjecture. I'm just saying that I think he has vested interest and will be least of all willing to make the shift in thought (even if he did think it held some merit). Again, I in no way meant any offense to Rasmus, and I stand by that. M.T. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php