Thanks for the advice-- I've run Linux without a GUI for a long time, so I'm quite familiar with hand compilations-- but I always wondered if I was just missing something with packaging systems that it seemed to REQUIRE hand-compilation to get a workable development LAMP system. Anytime I tried using packages some need seemed to force me back to doing it by hand. So I guess my more specific question would have been: Are there any distributions that actually TARGET developers and I Was curious about desktop tools. I own Zend but tend to use Homesite and Emacs in regular doses. Guess I will probably stick with Emacs and use Zend more. I know enough Vim to survive, but it just isn't "me" :) c -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php