Hi all, Forgive this long diatribe, a bit off-topic I know, but it might stimulate a good discussion... I have built a few small apps in PHP before and, whilst they work, I can't but help feeling that I go about the whole thing the WRONG way... I am not a professional software person (far from it) but I am reasonably competent in most things "technical". I trained in Electronics, build my own PCs and Linux systems from scratch, have used - just for fun - Java, Delphi, Visual Basic, PHP and a little C/C++. I am now wanting to write my own application (using PHP of course) to do something "really useful". And I am looking for some recommendations on reading [books or links] about "how to design" my application and how to think about the design in it's abstract form before I start writing code. Normally I end up writing little bits of code to solve small problems and then sort of kludging them together to do something useful. I would really like to try and go about this one the RIGHT way. Thanks in advance. Al -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php