RE: Obsession with BC

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I don't mean replace php4 with 5, but it seems odd they can't provide 5
to those users that want it. Keeping php4 for those places that were in
place originally. Especially since not providing any php5 will also
cause people to get mad and leave.

James Kilbride 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan McCullough [mailto:dan.mccullough@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:19 PM
> To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  Obsession with BC
> 
> The real problem is that it generates customer service and 
> support calls to the hosting company, which they dont like to 
> have to deal with, because in the end it will be a coding 
> issue and most of the people out there wont realize it and 
> get mad and leave.
> 
> On 10/11/05, Kilbride, James <James.Kilbride@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 4 to 5 does break a lot of code. On the other hand I agree 
> it's a cop 
> > out. On the final hand, if you pass the pages off from 
> apache to a php 
> > exe or module.. How does Apache know which one to pass it 
> to? Php4 or 
> > Php5? If I have both php4 and php5 code in a page should i run both 
> > sections or only the sections listed for php5(if it's on 
> php5)? If I 
> > only run one then I am maintaining two code branches in the 
> same files.
> > Seems like a bad idea to me. I don't really see how that idea would 
> > work well. And I do think it seems like a cop out that they can't 
> > provide
> > php5 somehow.
> >
> > James Kilbride
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dan McCullough [mailto:dan.mccullough@xxxxxxxxx]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 2:04 PM
> > > To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re:  Obsession with BC
> > >
> > > None of my code breaks from 4 to 5, I also run a small hosting 
> > > company and I upgrade when I see improvements to the 
> software that 
> > > would warrent an upgrade.  MySQL 4.1.12, Apache 2, PHP5.  I also 
> > > think its a cop out by those who dont have alot of time 
> to upgrade 
> > > their 30+ servers.  Another stall or cop-out would be 
> were currently 
> > > testing
> > > php5 and will have an evaluation in a few weeks *cough* months.
> > >
> > > On 10/11/05, Richard Davey <rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Tuesday, October 11, 2005, 5:41:53 PM, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Recently, I asked my hosting provider when they are going
> > > to switch
> > > > > to PHP5. They replied that it will not happen any time
> > > soon, since
> > > > > they will install PHP5 only on new servers. Their 
> reasoning was
> > > > > simple: PHP5 will inevitably break some old scripts, and
> > > it's just
> > > > > not worh all the trouble. Such attitude is common, and it 
> > > > > totally makes sence from a business perspective.
> > > >
> > > > It does? I wouldn't waste my money with a host that was 
> unable to 
> > > > provide PHP 5 support, at least in some way. I think 
> the "it will 
> > > > break lots of scripts" is a cop-out. There are various ways
> > > to allow
> > > > both on one server. Assuming they're technically proficient
> > > enough of
> > > > course.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Rich
> > > > --
> > > > Zend Certified Engineer
> > > > http://www.launchcode.co.uk
> > > >
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