On Tue, September 13, 2005 7:50 pm, Manuel Lemos wrote: > I also am a bit surprised for the tremendous lack of interest to > upgrade > to PHP 5. Ok, I expected that many people would not want to upgrade > due > to the nightmare of dealing with backwards incompatible changes, but I > did not expect that the statistics would be so overwhealming. I think there are simply no "must have" features in PHP 5. It's being treated more like a minor incremental release -- something to be done when a NEW machine or application needs to be built/written. > I guess this should ring a lot of bells for those that expect to > develop > products targetted to PHP 5, because the numbers seem to show that PHP > 5 > is a flop, despite PHP 5.0.0 was released more than 1 year ago. I don't think that makes PHP 5 a "flop" We had this same issue (and experience) when PHP3 -> PHP4 came around. People held onto PHP3 a lot longer than the hard-core developers/users expected. There is so much FUD in upgrading, that crucial uses simply won't upgrade until more time passes with no bugs/issues. My webhost is building new boxes with PHP5 and leaving the old ones alone with PHP4 -- So his new clients get PHP5, and old sites aren't broken by any of the rare incompatibilities. Some of my sites are on 5. Some are on 4. I can't tell a difference. That's a "Good Thing" in that PHP5 *IS* that backwards compatible. It's a "Bad Thing" in that I'm not gonna bug my host to upgrade or move my sites to PHP5, since I can't even notice a difference. 'Course I got zero interest in PHP OOP, XML, and any of the new features of PHP5 anyway, so I might be the exception. But webhosts will move to 5 when their clients demand it, not the other way around. For sure, getting RedHat (et al) to move to PHP5 for default install is the first big crucial step. -- Like Music? http://l-i-e.com/artists.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php