In a message dated 8/17/2005 1:17:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, evermillion@xxxxxxxxxxxx writes: >I tend to agree on things like this. If it's a generic problem then I >think it does everyone some good to discuss it in the open. Although I >can see the point of not discussing specific problems with specific >applications, at least not until a fix is in and notices have been sent >out. Then I think it falls back to the "it does everyone some good to >have it in the open" senerio. I learn a lot from my mistakes, but I also >learn from other's mistakes too, if I'm given the chance. I agree as well... I was just reading about the whole thing at the Black Hat convention in Vegas, what some were jokingly calling "Ciscogate". These problems should definitely be discussed out in the open so people can know about the problem - not just 'developers of the product'. - Clint