if you haven't seen it yet and are interested in the future of php you might be interested in the _big_ thread on php-internals that starts with the message: http://www.manucorp.com/archives/internals/200508/msg00398.php IMHO every halfbaked php coder should read it ;-) to cut it short for those to busy, or what not, Rasmus offered his his vision of php6 (which seems will be the version that will first bring the awesome unicode [and date?] functionality to the masses - hey thats us! :-) ) and there seems to be pretty much unanimous agreement on his main points (lots of discussion on more issues/ideas other people have brung up in response) the future's bright, the future is green. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php